RogerH Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 Hi Folks, Last year I replaced the nearside door hinges on the 4A. Pricewise they were not too frightening. Today I replaced the top hinge on the offside of the 4A. I bought two as I was expecting to change two - this time the price was frightening at £54 the pair. I replaced the seized one with a new one and then attempted to free up the old one. It really didn't want to play ball. So I took a big hammer to it and removed the pivot pin (very stiff) The pin was not rusty at all but there was a fair bit of rusty residue on the bore of the hinge plate. Before re-assembling I decided to fit a grease nipple so that routine greasing can take place. Annoyingly the nipple can't stay in pace when the car is being used - the movable hinge on the door hits the nipple. Not a great problem as the nipple can be removed and fitted as and when. The hole is 1/4UNF Most of the new ones at the shop were actually stiffer than my seized one. I was invited to rummage through and get a good pair Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ntc Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 https://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-GRID600306 Are they not the same? item 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted October 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 Hi Neil, yes that's the one. The price of the Moss one is higher; for whatever reason I know not. I still think the grease nipple mod is a reasonable idea. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pfenlon Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 Hi Folks, Last year I replaced the nearside door hinges on the 4A. Pricewise they were not too frightening. Today I replaced the top hinge on the offside of the 4A. I bought two as I was expecting to change two - this time the price was frightening at £54 the pair. I replaced the seized one with a new one and then attempted to free up the old one. It really didn't want to play ball. So I took a big hammer to it and removed the pivot pin (very stiff) The pin was not rusty at all but there was a fair bit of rusty residue on the bore of the hinge plate. Before re-assembling I decided to fit a grease nipple so that routine greasing can take place. Annoyingly the nipple can't stay in pace when the car is being used - the movable hinge on the door hits the nipple. Not a great problem as the nipple can be removed and fitted as and when. The hole is 1/4UNF Most of the new ones at the shop were actually stiffer than my seized one. I was invited to rummage through and get a good pair Roger P1060389a.jpg P1060390a.jpg Roger there must be a reason that you didn't ream them out and fit a silver steel pin? it would have been far cheaper and longer lasting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted October 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 Hi Pete, silver steel can still go rusty. I was considering opening out the bore and fitting a bronze bush. However the only problem I can see is the lack of lubrication. The grease nipple will sort that. Having seen a box of 100+ hinges today there wouldn't have been a pin heads worth of oil/grease on the pins. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Geko Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 There are "flush" mount nipples which will stay proud by only 1 or 2 mm and can be nourished with a needle grease gun Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted October 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Hi Stef, not come across those before. Fitting a standard nipple once a year isn't a big task so I'll probably stay as ir. I will need to blank off the open hole. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
roy53 Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 for info i just purchased 4 new from CHIC DOIG for £80 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 (edited) There are "flush" mount nipples which will stay proud by only 1 or 2 mm and can be nourished with a needle grease gun My Boxford lathe has something like these grease nipples and I had to get a pointy tipped attachment for the grease gun. http://fzc168.en.alibaba.com/product/585054160-210631824/grease_gun_accessories_pointed_nozzle.html http://www.pneumaticoilpumps.com/china-reentering_type_plastic_grease_gun_with_pointed_nozzle_air_powered_grease_guns-4462114.html Not hard to make one on the lathe to fit your grease gun Roger..... Peter W Edited October 29, 2017 by BlueTR3A-5EKT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 There are wide variations in the quality of these hinges. The expensive ones are the Bastuck ones which are generally pretty good though stiff to start (nothing wrong with that!) The cheaper versions will usually be found to have more play than the originals you are trying to replace. Price does make a difference Im afraid. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ian Vincent Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 I fitted my TR3a hinges with a larger pin by reaming out and fitted a grease nipple which is located so that it doesn't need to be removed. Cheap and effective. Rgds Ian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 I fitted my TR3a hinges with a larger pin by reaming out and fitted a grease nipple which is located so that it doesn't need to be removed. Cheap and effective. Rgds Ian Very different hinges unfortunately. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DaveN Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Roger they are called pin nipples, find a lot on mr Boeing’s products. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
littlejim Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 blush! I use oil on mine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SeanF Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 Hi Roger, Any tips on getting old pins out, particularly broken ones? I have a couple of hinges which need changing. I bought new pins but was particularly unsuccessful in getting the old ones out with hammer and punch Many thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bill Bourne Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 blush! I use oil on mine. So do I, and I've drilled a tiny pin hole in the middle of the hinge shaft. Just enough to get a squirt of oil inside. It works.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ed_h Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 Hi Roger, Any tips on getting old pins out, particularly broken ones? I have a couple of hinges which need changing. I bought new pins but was particularly unsuccessful in getting the old ones out with hammer and punch Many thanks My pins were difficult, particularly the broken one. I had t resort to welding a small bar to one end. Some pics here: http://bullfire.net/TR6/TR6-62/TR6-62.html Ed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted October 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 Hi Sean, basically as Ed has shown (rather well at that). One ens if the shaft should have splines and the other is plain, Knock it out splines first. Hold the hinge very tightly in a decent vice in such a way that an edge of the clamped hinge plate sits over the vice and stops it being bashed down. Using a as big a pin puch that will fit and as big a hammer as you own (7lb club hammer) give it a positive and well directed whack. If it proves really difficult, soak the hinge in a bowl of penetrating fluid for an hour or so. Some new pins come with splines at both ends These may prove a problem. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lebro Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) Not if you have a lathe ( or a file grindwheel ) Bob. Edited October 30, 2017 by Lebro Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waldi Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 To remove old pins I used a propane torch, the same that is used for soldering etc, and heated the hinge. Then with a decent size hammer and as large as possible punch it came out, but not "easy" . It is important to properly support the hinge in the vise to all the hammer energy goes into the pin. I placed an old nut between the vise and the pin for this. I ordered some new pins, think from Moss, and they were slightly larger, so with an adjustable reamer (which costs 5 euros), I was able to make a nice stiff fit. Lubed it wit Moly grease before assembly. Good result. Waldi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SeanF Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 Thanks all. I'll give it a go. Splines out first was something I didn't know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
woodward Posted March 13, 2022 Report Share Posted March 13, 2022 Hi All, The passenger side of my TR4 (ex US car so this was the driver's door for most of the car's life) does not shut well. It needs s good slam and even then does not close well. There is some play in the hinges but I was wondering how much is normal? Should there be no play at all or is some acceptable? I'm thinking to replace the hinges anyway (or refurbish the old ones but this seems tricky) but want to get quality replacements - does anyone know who stocks the bastuck ones? Thanks Myles Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james christie Posted March 13, 2022 Report Share Posted March 13, 2022 https://shop.bastuck2.de/index.php?&cat=10000&lang=en james Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted March 13, 2022 Report Share Posted March 13, 2022 1 hour ago, woodward said: Hi All, The passenger side of my TR4 (ex US car so this was the driver's door for most of the car's life) does not shut well. It needs s good slam and even then does not close well. There is some play in the hinges but I was wondering how much is normal? Should there be no play at all or is some acceptable? I'm thinking to replace the hinges anyway (or refurbish the old ones but this seems tricky) but want to get quality replacements - does anyone know who stocks the bastuck ones? Thanks Myles TR Shop has them if you ask. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stillp Posted March 13, 2022 Report Share Posted March 13, 2022 My hinge pins had to be drilled out - a friend in the South Glamorgan group tried heat and a 50 ton press, which didn't work! He very kindly drilled them oversize and fitted bushes. Pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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