Peter Cobbold Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Derek Hurford said: Am I being controversial, saying I’m pretty sure those of us reading the Form are aware of the potential Benefits of D3 and possibly risks, it’s for us to satisfy ourselves and determine what’s safe individually perhaps. At the moment I feel A bit like I’m being forced fed D3. That’s probably just me, What do you feel Peter is it time to let it go? Indeed individuals must decide for themselves what to do, if anything. Am happy to shut up providing information if the handful of forumites stiill following the D3 story as it evolves, agree. The few of us still interested can continue in private. PM me for my email address. Peter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foster461 Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 I have found this whole thread very useful. The info that we get from our leadership is mostly fluff, often wrong (dont wear a mask, take hydroxychloroquine or worse etc). Even the experts that they put on TV dish out watered down superficial dross that is understandable to the limited attention span masses and to support their political leadership. The best source of real info and fact based medical studies is youtube. The contributions here by Peter re D3 have been very interesting as have been the ensuing discussions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) Hi Peter, please keep posting as nobody else is giving any help what so ever And if Iain could keep monitoring it and give his guidance that would also be good. Thanks to Iain I have noted that perhaps the level of D3 I am taking may be inappropriate for the other medication I am taking - (diuertic). Roger Edited May 17, 2020 by RogerH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ntc Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, RogerH said: Hi Peter, please keep posting as nobody else is giving any help what so ever And if Iain could keep monitoring it and give his guidance that would also be good. Thanks to Iain I have noted that perhaps the level of F3 I am taking may be inappropriate for the other medication I am taking - (diuertic). Roger Golden rule and I am sure Peter would agree if on other meds seek medical advise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Cobbold Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 @ Stan, Roger, Neil. OK I give in, any gems of info I''ll post as they pop up. Yes, seek medical advice following Iain's list. I alerted a family member drugged for epilepsy of her risk of lowered 25(OH)D3, thanks to Iain posting. My preference is to measure my level at home, City Assays, Birmingham. Peter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rod1883 Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 Don't stop posting Peter, Iain, everyone. I'm sure we are all old/sensible/clever enough to look at evidence and the discussion and make a view. We started on 2000iu D3 early in April, after just over three weeks we switched to 1000iu per day, and have now stopped after three weeks at that dose. We are taking a jointcare supplement omega3 which contains 200iu D3 per day ongoing. We will start back on the 1000iu dose in the Autumn, and back up to 2kiu for the winter. This is my course of action having read most of the excellent info and discussion presented. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Cobbold Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Rod1883 said: Don't stop posting Peter, Iain, everyone. I'm sure we are all old/sensible/clever enough to look at evidence and the discussion and make a view. We started on 2000iu D3 early in April, after just over three weeks we switched to 1000iu per day, and have now stopped after three weeks at that dose. We are taking a jointcare supplement omega3 which contains 200iu D3 per day ongoing. We will start back on the 1000iu dose in the Autumn, and back up to 2kiu for the winter. This is my course of action having read most of the excellent info and discussion presented. OK Rod, I'll keep them coming. I take omega3 fas for my Parkinsons. A couple of nights a week I take a low dose aspirin (75 mg). The two together generate "resolvins" that enhance the resolution stage of inflammation. https://hms.harvard.edu/news/daily-dose https://www.jci.org/articles/view/97943 I have no idea if it works, as I cant feel brain inflammation. But joints, maybe worth googling resolvins. Serhan's Harvard group has already considered role of resolvins in the COVID cytokine storm https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32385712 Peter Edited May 17, 2020 by Peter Cobbold Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iain Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 OK Chaps Ill keep posting when and if appropriate. Keep smiling everyone it will get better Today I have had a first hand ( across the Garden) debrief from my son of whats what with ITU patients........wow, just wow is all I can say. Keep safe and don't go there. Iain Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mick Forey Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 Please keep posting, I have learned so much from all of you. I really want to see some results of well constructed clinical trials. In the meantime, Linda and I take 4,000 IU per day. No downside and lots of potential upside. Mick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
barkerwilliams Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) Mick - yes why wouldn't you. Win-Win hopefully, so much better than waiting for bureaucrats to decide to wait until 2021 for big pharma to sell them something expensive and specific without the benefits of D3 for a myriad of other conditions. D3 might be snake oil as far as Coronavirus but its the only game in town for mere mortals. Old news story I haven't seen here that the army on Coronavirus duties to be given D3. https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-uk-troops-given-insect-repellent-citriodiol-as-part-of-enhanced-protection-11978318 Alan Edited May 17, 2020 by barkerwilliams Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spit_2.5PI Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 Yes, please keep the D3 information coming Peter. 23 minutes ago, barkerwilliams said: Old news story I haven't seen here that the army on Coronavirus duties to be given D3. Yes Alan, we saw that somewhere (not Sky) as well. I wonder what dose? Cheers, Richard Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Misfit Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) Peter While I have read and appreciated your efforts and others to inform members of the importance of D3, and accept that the opinion on levels to be taken Differ. It would appear I am in the minority so please ignore my previous post, although it seems there are posters on here that have already determined the levels they wish to take. It seems unlike me, those taking the D3 need to be reminded by you why they are taking it. I therefore look forward to continuing to read the posts explaining D3 virtues and Other updates. Regards Me Edited July 27, 2020 by Misfit Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Cobbold Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, Derek Hurford said: Peter While I have read and appreciated your efforts and others to inform members of the importance of D3, and accept that the opinion on levels to be taken Differ. It would appear I am in the minority so please ignore by previous post, although it seems there are posters on here that have already determined the levels they wish to take. It seems unlike me, those taking the D3 need to be reminded by you why they are taking it. I therefore look forward o continuing to read the posts explaining the D3 virtues and Other updates. Regards Derek Derek, It has become a very long thread. And not everyone has been following it from the start, so I think us stalwarts have to tolerate a bit of repetition. It is easier for thme than backtracking the thread. No offence taken. Regards, Peter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crawfie Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 Well ..got the test results back today. We are both "negative". Relieved to say he least, but still means we can still get the bloody thing. Now...seeing as I've still got a sore throat , headache and have about much get up and go as a asmatic flea...summer cold/ mild flu ?? Thanks for the messages of good will etc. Much appreciated. Booking a celebratory pick up cod and chips for tonight !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Morrison Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 Ah, the comfort food of the gods! John. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crawfie Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 18 minutes ago, John Morrison said: Ah, the comfort food of the gods! John. Yes it is !! Thank you Zeus. Missus wants to get the TR out and eat on the Moor. There us a safety issue here.....last time we did that.. We ended up with two horse snouts in the car trying to nick our dinner. When I got out of the car....the bloody things got gobby and started to scrape their hooves on the car park gravel. This is the problem with touristy people feeding the horses !!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Cobbold Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Crawfie said: Yes it is !! Thank you Zeus. Missus wants to get the TR out and eat on the Moor. There us a safety issue here.....last time we did that.. We ended up with two horse snouts in the car trying to nick our dinner. When I got out of the car....the bloody things got gobby and started to scrape their hooves on the car park gravel. This is the problem with touristy people feeding the horses !!! Can horses catch covid........... ..Maybe, the ACE2 receptor in the lungs that the virus uses to get inside our cells is rather similar in horses Cats are known to get the virus. may only be a matter of time before horses are reported with it. Peter Edited May 18, 2020 by Peter Cobbold Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Cobbold Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 From the Upper East Side of NY http://www.ourtownny.com/news/the-vitamin-d-question-XE1152716 Former Director ff CDC is on message As is a university I have never heard of: SLIPPERY ROCK UNIVERSITY Peter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Misfit Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) Good news, Crawfie but bu@@er fish and chips unless you are cooking them yourself, open a bottle of bubbly or wine Take the TR have a picnic Somewhere quite or better still Go for a drive if you must, then cook your wife a meal and celebrate at home. Look up, pick a star and thank it. m Edited July 27, 2020 by Misfit Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TorontoTim Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 Glad to hear of your negative test, Crawfie. For a cold or flu-like thing, I recommend what I call a Canadian Gold Rush. Won't necessarily fix it, but will make you care about it a little less ;-) 1 measure lemon juice 3/4 measure maple syrup 2 measures bourbon/rye mix with or without ice, depending on the weather :-) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iain Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 Sounds Good Tim, I'll have on anyway! Iain Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 Double Lemsip with a Jack Daniels top works for me! Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john.r.davies Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 4 hours ago, Crawfie said: Well ..got the test results back today. We are both "negative". Relieved to say he least, but still means we can still get the bloody thing. Now...seeing as I've still got a sore throat , headache and have about much get up and go as a asmatic flea...summer cold/ mild flu ?? Thanks for the messages of good will etc. Much appreciated. Booking a celebratory pick up cod and chips for tonight !! Reassuring, but is it? False negatives may be as high as 30%. See: https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg24632823-200-how-accurate-are-the-results-from-self-testing-for-covid-19-at-home/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foster461 Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 4 hours ago, Crawfie said: Yes it is !! Thank you Zeus. Missus wants to get the TR out and eat on the Moor. There us a safety issue here.....last time we did that.. We ended up with two horse snouts in the car trying to nick our dinner. When I got out of the car....the bloody things got gobby and started to scrape their hooves on the car park gravel. This is the problem with touristy people feeding the horses !!! Good news re the test results. Be sure to get tested again if you feel a little horse. Stan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iain Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 Crawfie. False negatives are a problem, keep abreast of your symptoms and do as necessary. Even in hospital with clinically confirmed patients, sometimes they come back negative. Hence the exaggerated benefits being promoted by the press and the unfair haranguing of the government and their apparent slowness to test........the test we have now are way better than those at the beginning, mystic meg was probably more accurate! Iain Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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