John Morrison Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 Hi all, chatting to a Tr owner who has just returned with his camper from a trip, to the very high Highlands, guess what he paid for Petrol near the top? £1.83 Litre, thats well over £8.20 a Gallon, - Ouch! I can remember when petrol was less than 5s a gallon, that would be around 5p a litre. John. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lebro Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 Aye, & beer was a shilling a pint - happy days Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie D Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, Lebro said: beer was a shilling a pint And you still had enough money in your pocket when you left the pub to buy a packet of chips and half a haggis. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 I paid £1.50/Ltr on the Isle of Mull in 2012 or there abouts. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bleednipple Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 3 hours ago, John Morrison said: I can remember when petrol was less than 5s a gallon, that would be around 5p a litre. Ahh that would be the early 1960s. When a man's wages were about £15 a week (or about half that for a women). Still, petrol is one of the few things that is more expensive today, inflation-adjusted, than back then. Housing is the other really big thing - an average house was £33,000 in the early 60s. Nigel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, Bleednipple said: Ahh that would be the early 1960s. When a man's wages were about £15 a week (or about half that for a women). Still, petrol is one of the few things that is more expensive today, inflation-adjusted, than back then. Housing is the other really big thing - an average house was £33,000 in the early 60s. Nigel Wow - where did you live My semi cost £13,500 in 1976 4 miles north of Heathrow airport. In the mid 60's it was nearer £4000 Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bleednipple Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, RogerH said: Wow - where did you live My semi cost £13,500 in 1976 4 miles north of Heathrow airport. In the mid 60's it was nearer £4000 Sorry, I meant £33,000 inflation-adjusted (approx £2,500 in 1960s money). But anyway, versus about £250,000 average for a house today. Nigel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 What’s a shilling ?……. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bleednipple Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, Hamish said: What’s a shilling ?……. Three groats. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 (edited) Shilling, or Miss Shilling (as we called her) was a female engineer during WW2 and is famed for coming up with a device to allow Spitfires to fly inverted etc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Shilling's_orifice Rooger This not me !!! Roger Edited November 25, 2021 by RogerH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crawfie Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 14 minutes ago, RogerH said: Shilling, or Miss Shilling (as we called her) was a female engineer during WW2 and is famed for coming up with a device to allow Spitfires to fly inverted etc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Shilling's_orifice Rooger Ok Rooger , where’s Roger and what have you done to him . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tony_C Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 Miss Shillings orifice must surely be worth more than a Bob?…… Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 45 minutes ago, Tony_C said: Miss Shillings orifice must surely be worth more than a Bob?…… Times were hard.................. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 3 hours ago, Tony_C said: Miss Shillings orifice must surely be worth more than a Bob?…… Don’t bring Bob into this! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iain Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 Here is Miss Shilling with my good friend and neighbour Tony Nash at Farnborough designing a new Bobsleigh for their next attempt at the Winter Olympics, having won Gold in 1964. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ntc Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 One thing for sure is it will not go down as they are in battle with the ev revolution ask yourself would you I fear it will only go one way but when you think the average miles covered per year is under 1000 for a classic car? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mick Forey Posted November 26, 2021 Report Share Posted November 26, 2021 I read recently that 25% of all car journeys in the UK are less than 1 mile, utter nonsense. We need more than an EV revolution we need to walk more and drive less. Mick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynchpin Posted November 26, 2021 Report Share Posted November 26, 2021 Showing our ages I'm afraid, 1st car was a Mini in 1970 local Esso garage 2* 6s 4d 3* 6s 6d... per gallon... Cheers Phil.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobH Posted November 26, 2021 Report Share Posted November 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Mick Forey said: I read recently that 25% of all car journeys in the UK are less than 1 mile, I sometimes wonder where statistics like this come from. Is it real and if so how was it measured? Has anyone on here ever been asked? If it is real, can it be the result of edge-of-town shopping malls where sometimes the only sensible way to reach them is by car, and the trend to weekly shopping trips means hand-carrying large amounts home is not feasible? In many places the in-town food shops are small so stock only the essentials and the supermarkets are on the periphery, sometimes on the wrong side of dual-carriageways. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Cobbold Posted November 26, 2021 Report Share Posted November 26, 2021 Half a crown a gallon in ca 1966. That's 12p roughly. Then came the '70s inflation and Sheik Yamani. Not long now before petrol will be sold in tins. eg Pratt's. What goes around comes around. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobH Posted November 26, 2021 Report Share Posted November 26, 2021 16 minutes ago, Peter Cobbold said: Not long now before petrol will be sold in tins. eg Pratt's I hope they do consider using a different name though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mick Forey Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 Rob, I found this data from the National Travel Survey. https://www.gov.uk/government/statistical-data-sets/nts03-modal-comparisons. These data are from NTS0307: These data give credence to the assertion that EV do not need long range. It is worse than I thought, with 25% less than one mile, 68% less than 5 miles. Only 1% of journeys are over 100miles. For that 1%, rapid charging facilities are essential. However, for 99%, charging can either be low rate at everywhere the car is parked for hours at a time (home or work) or get a rapid charge once per week. Mick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobH Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 Yes but as I said Mick - who gave them those numbers? How much reliance can you put on this type of survey? If someone asked me how many trips I made in a year and what length they were, I would have only a vague idea - I don't keep records and I doubt many others do either so at best this is probably largely based on guesses. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mick Forey Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 From their website: National Travel Survey data collection consists of a face-to-face interview and a 7 day self-completed written travel diary, allowing travel patterns to be linked with individual characteristics. The survey covers travel by people in all age groups, including children. Approximately 16,000 individuals in 7,000 households in England, participate in the survey each year. Sounds a bit more work than a guess, I guess. Mick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boxofbits Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Mick Forey said: Rob, I found this data from the National Travel Survey. https://www.gov.uk/government/statistical-data-sets/nts03-modal-comparisons. These data are from NTS0307: These data give credence to the assertion that EV do not need long range. It is worse than I thought, with 25% less than one mile, 68% less than 5 miles. Only 1% of journeys are over 100miles. For that 1%, rapid charging facilities are essential. However, for 99%, charging can either be low rate at everywhere the car is parked for hours at a time (home or work) or get a rapid charge once per week. Mick In conjunction with EV, 2020 was a year sTRuck by Coronavirus and it’s resultant lockdowns. I would think that played a significant part in the slide in 2020 figures. Kevin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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