ANDREW PERKINS Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 Ok so I am now starting my hunt for a Mig Welder New or Second Hand - No clue of type or model what to buy ! Can Anybody recommend one that they have used to do a MAJOR rebuild / restore == I would be very grateful -- Andrew Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) Hi Andrew, There are many out there. The cheap ones can be made to work but have issues. The units that have a gas bottle(large or small) work better than 'gasless' units (my opinion) R-Tech are good and will include 1/2 day training with a purchase. Also get one of the automatic dimming face masks. https://www.r-techwelding.co.uk/ Roger Edited November 17, 2020 by RogerH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mtrehy Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 RTECH are fantastic, really good service, after sales support, return to base etc. Always have 10% offers etc - check their social media. Check their reviews on mig welding forum uk If I was replacing my old mig I'd go for https://www.r-techwelding.co.uk/mig-welder-r-tech-i-mig180/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ANDREW PERKINS Posted November 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 Thanks for that info will check it out -- Andrew Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jerrytr5 Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 These are reliable. https://www.oxfordwelders.co.uk/index.html Jerry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waldi Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 There are several old topics for this. Waldi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mattyb Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 My half penny's worth - I have a Cebora Boxer 155 - (also badged as a "Snap on") Its an excellent mid range MIG with decent supply of consumables - still come up on Ebay etc - Had a Cebora pocket MIG 130 which always seemed to be well thought of, which I didn't think much of and always struggled with - MIG welding is practise, practise and more practise (plus the correct gas, clean metal , not welding outside in a force 8 gale, etc etc ) good luck and well done for wanting to get stuck in - cheers Matt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
super6al Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 It depends on what you want to do with it I guess. What you need for welding thicker material may not be suitable for thinner panels. For visible panels TIG maybe a better route for less distortion. A basic 'hobby mig' will do a job but will lack finesse in terms of quality of weld (certainly in my less than skilled hands anyway). Another issue is supply of spares & consumables. Just to chuck another one into the mix I went with an Autostar Mig 160. I considered the R Tech machine but went with the Autostar - as it was slightly cheaper with a 3 year warranty at the time. Its basically a Jasic level entry machine & a good all rounder. Invertor controlled (IGBT) & was supplied with a Euro Binzell torch, takes 5kg spools 0.6, 0.8 & 1.0. It can MMA also. Good service & advice from Noz-Alls in Cheltenham. For the price its the closest to the Professional Kempi machine we used at work. Great control & quality welds possible. Will do most things (& more) a TR6 can throw at it. Alan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PodOne Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 I went for a Clarke 135 Turbo MIG with big bottle of Argon shield from hobby weld and learn't with this, with practice it gives me good results for anything you are going to need to weld on a TR6 from 1mm to 4mm. This was proved to me when a mate who makes replacement chassis for TVR's welded on some new suspension brackets and reinforcement bits in the usual places the results were fantastic better than the factory welds. His comment was he would be happy to use it for work as a back up and for the price there was little to fault especially for folk in a DIY position. Andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David B2 Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 12 hours ago, RogerH said: Hi Andrew, .......... Also get one of the automatic dimming face masks. https://www.r-techwelding.co.uk/ Roger I’ve had good success with a Clarke 135TE. Can’t comment on others as haven’t used anything else. Good price and has lasted for 10 years with no problems. What made the difference to my welding was buying a good auto dimming helmet. Initially bought a Draper auto thing from Machine Mart with the welder. Rubbish. then bought an R-tech Phantom XL (£95) and difference was huge. Improved my welding no end. David B Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 These guys use R-tech kit. https://tgsexhausts.co.uk/longlife-exhausts/ and they really know their stuff Commissioned them to do some unique work in my last job it’s very good kit with good Uk company back up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Bracher Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 On 11/17/2020 at 9:08 AM, RogerH said: Hi Andrew, There are many out there. The cheap ones can be made to work but have issues. The units that have a gas bottle(large or small) work better than 'gasless' units (my opinion) R-Tech are good and will include 1/2 day training with a purchase. Also get one of the automatic dimming face masks. https://www.r-techwelding.co.uk/ Roger Definite +1 and a 'thumbs up' for R-Tech. They also treat you 'properly' when you have any questions or want any accessories!! Satisfied customer! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Read Posted November 20, 2020 Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 Definately get a gas mig. I have tried both and the gasless that use a flux core wire are not as good. Don't go for a high ampage one unless you are welding chassis material as often you cannot set them low enough for thin body panel metal. I am presently using a Sealey supermig 185, its a few years old now but a great welder. The only issues is that even on the lowest setting it will burn holes in new metal if you are not careful I would look at something in the 30-140 amp range. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
barkerwilliams Posted November 20, 2020 Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 (edited) Look at the Hobbyweld gas bottles. Reasonable size bottle with no rental charges available everywhere. I use Clarke 135TE which is reasonable for most tasks. I agree with David above that a good helmet makes a great deal of difference to seeing what you are doing and improving your results. Before you buy just check the current draw of the welder and what supply you have to the socket you will be using. No connection just a user. Alan Edited November 20, 2020 by barkerwilliams Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boxofbits Posted November 20, 2020 Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 With regard to MIG gas, I found my local Calor Gas supplier had MIG gas of the correct mix available, and at a reasonable price. No contract, pay-as-you-go and collection when you need it. I also use an R-Tech auto dimming mask. KEVIN Quote Link to post Share on other sites
M. Pied Lourd Posted November 20, 2020 Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 Lincoln Easy Mig 140 running C25 Gas does everything I want it to do on any TR that I have worked on. Cheers Tush Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Morrison Posted November 20, 2020 Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 Hi Andrew, I have a Machine Mart 151TE Mig Welder. Had it a long time, probobly a decade, and it has done a monumental amount of work, allsorts, and would cope with anything on a car. As others have said, don't go for gasless, use a large Argon Mix Bottle, hobbyweld or similar, there are lots of different suppliers now, DO NOT USE CO2, I never had any satisfactory results, swithed to 5% Argon Mix, it was chalk and cheese, and buy a decent auto helmet. Very recently bought a replacement from Aldi for £23.00 and am very impressed with it. John. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish Posted November 20, 2020 Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 48 minutes ago, John Morrison said: As others have said, don't go for gasless, use a large Argon Mix Bottle, hobbyweld or similar, there are lots of different suppliers now, DO NOT USE CO2, I never had any satisfactory results, swithed to 5% Argon Mix, it was chalk and cheese, and buy a decent auto helmet. Very recently bought a replacement from Aldi for £23.00 and am very impressed with it. John. Very useful thread. I bought the Aldi auto dark welding hood glad you rate it John. I struggled with a permanent black visor welding for the first time in the front suspension turret. A proper black hole. I need some gas so ready if needed I’ll be getting an argon mix by the look for things. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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