David Owen Posted March 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2021 Has anyone changed the oil pressure pipe from the engine to the p-clip on the fuel pump with the engine in the car? If so how did you come at the bolt on the fuel pump? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 15 hours ago, David Owen said: Has anyone changed the oil pressure pipe from the engine to the p-clip on the fuel pump with the engine in the car? If so how did you come at the bolt on the fuel pump? You need a 1/4" drive 7/16" wobbly socket. Like this Socket Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ian Vincent Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 Alternatively cut down an open ended spanner to fit. Rgds Ian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Owen Posted March 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 Thanks guys. I purchased a 1/2" drive wobbly socket not realizing the size of Peter's. Minds out of the gutter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Owen Posted March 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 If anyone is up for some questions it would be appreciated: How do I identify the distributor type? I am replacing the vacuum advance and it's tube and need to match them. Is there a significant performance/quality difference between the Revotec fan and the Hayden fan offered by Moss? Is there a better option? Thank you, David Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lebro Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 This will help identify the model, could either be DM2P4, or 25D4 https://blog.simonbbc.com/about-distributors/identify-my-distributor/ If DM2 then the type number should be 40480B/E TRIUMPH TR3 SPORTS CAR 1957 40480B/E TRIUMPH TR3 SPORTS CAR 1958 40480F TRIUMPH TR3 SPORTS CAR 1959 If 25D4 then type number should be 40783A TRIUMPH TR3 SPORTS CAR The Model & type number are stamped into the side of the body just under the top of the metal rim on the side facing away from the engine. Hope this helps Bob. This may be of use also: http://www.starchak.ca/tech/pdfs/lucas.pdf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 What have you got here? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Owen Posted March 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 13 hours ago, BlueTR3A-5EKT said: What have you got here? All the markings are missing. I tested the fan and have found where a good amount of the rattle and squeak was coming from when I was driving the car last year. I took the fan apart and put some oil on the bearing (probably the wrong thing to do) and it still makes a lot of non-fan noise. I will try it again today to see if the oil has worked any magic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Owen Posted March 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 14 hours ago, Lebro said: This will help identify the model, could either be DM2P4, or 25D4 https://blog.simonbbc.com/about-distributors/identify-my-distributor/ If DM2 then the type number should be 40480B/E TRIUMPH TR3 SPORTS CAR 1957 40480B/E TRIUMPH TR3 SPORTS CAR 1958 40480F TRIUMPH TR3 SPORTS CAR 1959 If 25D4 then type number should be 40783A TRIUMPH TR3 SPORTS CAR The Model & type number are stamped into the side of the body just under the top of the metal rim on the side facing away from the engine. Hope this helps Bob. This may be of use also: http://www.starchak.ca/tech/pdfs/lucas.pdf Thank you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Owen Posted March 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 (edited) On 3/27/2021 at 6:43 AM, stuart said: You need a 1/4" drive 7/16" wobbly socket. Like this Socket Stuart. 23 hours ago, Ian Vincent said: Alternatively cut down an open ended spanner to fit. Rgds Ian Well a lack of mechanical intuition has reared it's ugly head once again. I neglected to mention that the bolts on the fuel pump were 1/2", I did buy the right socket but it didn't register in my mind that the difference in socket/bolt size is likely what's making it awkward. So I will go with Ian's solution today. Edited March 28, 2021 by David Owen Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted March 28, 2021 Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 Four seasons fans ? https://www.4s.com/en/products/cooling-fan-assemblies/overview/about-cooling-fan-assemblies Or Hayden https://www.haydenauto.com/en/products/fan-controllers/hayden-fan-controllers/electric-fan-controllers Oddly their sites look identical Same company but different product names? You need to decide if you want a fully thermostatically controlled fan (Revotec) or just a fan with a switch and driver input to control temp when required. This second option usually is dangerous if you lend the car to someone less mechanically sympathetic or adept. I think from you geographic locations I’d go Hayden. Be sure you can get the electric fan out of the engine bay without having to remove the front apron. Fiddly but Less damaging to paint etc if that is the case. Peter W Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Owen Posted March 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 (edited) 40 minutes ago, BlueTR3A-5EKT said: Four seasons fans ? https://www.4s.com/en/products/cooling-fan-assemblies/overview/about-cooling-fan-assemblies Or Hayden https://www.haydenauto.com/en/products/fan-controllers/hayden-fan-controllers/electric-fan-controllers Oddly their sites look identical Same company but different product names? You need to decide if you want a fully thermostatically controlled fan (Revotec) or just a fan with a switch and driver input to control temp when required. This second option usually is dangerous if you lend the car to someone less mechanically sympathetic or adept. I think from you geographic locations I’d go Hayden. Be sure you can get the electric fan out of the engine bay without having to remove the front apron. Fiddly but Less damaging to paint etc if that is the case. Peter W Definitely a thermostatic set up. The car is already wired and has a separate harness for the electronic dash temperature gauge, the fan, fan relay, and the fan thermostat. I haven't replaced that harness as it appears to be in good enough shape. I think all I need is the fan and a new thermostat. I was more concerned about the quality and effectiveness of the different fans. Thank you for the sage advice on the placement of the fan. Edited March 28, 2021 by David Owen Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted March 28, 2021 Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 The fan make we like in Europe is SPAL. They have an office in USA which might or might not be of use to you commercially compared to buying from Europe. just be sure to measure the size of fan you have fitted and get a direct dimensional replacement to save faffing with the fixings. https://www.spalusa.com/ info. https://www.streetmusclemag.com/news/spal-electric-fans-keeping-things-cool-with-different-blade-types/ Peter W Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Owen Posted March 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 (edited) Thanks Peter. I bet y'all didn't know if someone uses 1/2" nuts on the fuel pump (instead of the spec'd 7/16"), when you undo the rear most nut and remove it the last few turns with your fingers it can very easily slip and get caught between the pin and the fuel pump and it can take up to 50 minutes to get the %$@#%% out of that position. WIth magnets and mini-claws. Edited March 28, 2021 by David Owen Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Owen Posted March 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 Small victories during amateur hour: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Owen Posted March 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 And my trophy case is growing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lebro Posted March 28, 2021 Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 Trophy case ? I've got a trophy shed !! Bob. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Owen Posted March 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Lebro said: Trophy case ? I've got a trophy shed !! Bob. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Owen Posted March 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 Well anothe expensive and embarrassing mistake. I assumed that the spare rad that came with th car was a TR3 rad. It isn't. Unless I am missing something. It sits about 1 1/2 to 2" too high based on the top hose outlet lining up and it's a bit beefier which I failed to notice. Any idea what it could be? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ian Vincent Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 Can it be persuaded to fit? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ralph Whitaker Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 If the filler extension fits under the front panel and hood ( for our north american cousins), you could have the top hose outlet stub re positioned lower down the header tank. I can`t think what else other than a TR2/3 would require the filler extension. Ralph. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lebro Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 It seems to me that the top hose connection is angled up way too much, it should be horizontal. (I think) Bob. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 Probably TR4 rad then. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Owen Posted March 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 7 hours ago, stuart said: Probably TR4 rad then. Stuart. I think you are correct. So I now have a fully reconditioned/recored TR4 rad. I will do a trade if anyone has a TR3A rad in close to equivalent condition. I was going to put in into my next 3A so I would prefer a trade. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ralph Whitaker Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 14 hours ago, David Owen said: I was going to put in into my next 3A so I would prefer a trade. What? you`re buying another! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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