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34 minutes ago, Ralph Whitaker said:

Is the bracket for sale?. Mine was very rusty and had to weld up to put some strength back into it. Alternatively I do have a couple of 3 syncro non overdrive gearbox tops but wasn`t too sure that they would fit.

Ralph

Here you go.  Hanging off my spare TR3 gear lever retaining cap.

Ralph I have sent you a pm

Cheers

Peter W

 

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Plus 1 on David Tushingham Cheftush. nice guy who's has done some restorations of seriously decayed TR's. In Ontario and knows a lot about the cars, can put you onto "Yank" terminology and also s

David, if you have registered and can log on to the members only part of the site you can access workshop manuals etc from there and should be able to find a wiring diagram. The horn button simply ear

Hi David, Nice car, pretty sure that there must be more TR owners in your area. Enjoy the TR! Yves

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1 hour ago, Ralph Whitaker said:

Is the bracket for sale?. Mine was very rusty and had to weld up to put some strength back into it. Alternatively I do have a couple of 3 syncro non overdrive gearbox tops but wasn`t too sure that they would fit.

Ralph

Ralph - I think I've got some if I understand correctly what you are looking for- I'll have a look if Peter can't help. I can remember one of the selector rods had an extension piece on the back of the rod so it stuck out a lot further than the others which I thought operated the inhibitor switch mounted in the bracket you are talking about, to operate the reversing lights. However I can't remember which selector rod it was but would have thought it was the reverse selector rod as otherwise how would selecting reverse operate the switch?

When converting these to TR spec boxes, Pete Cox would just cut off the extension piece so all the selector rods were of an equal length when in neutral.

Let me know if you want the bracket

Cheers Rich

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It's not spade or bullet that matters, it's how you terminate them.  I go for crimping myself.

Go with what matches the rest of the car's wiring, i.e. bullet for wire to wire joints, & spade for wire to fixed object  - meters, switches etc.

Bob.

P.S.  You are up early !

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18 hours ago, BlueTR3A-5EKT said:

Here you go.  Hanging off my spare TR3 gear lever retaining cap.

Ralph I have sent you a pm

Cheers

Peter W

 

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Are those security headed screws ?

Bob.

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9 minutes ago, David Owen said:

Any recommendations on quality electrical connectors?  Spade or bullet.  I'm a little leery about the packages available on Amazon at a low price.

Yes they are often pretty much cr*p made from very thin metal -  its a pit pot-luck.  Best to buy them from a car wiring specialist. 

e.g. https://www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/category/1

(UK company but there must be equivalents on your side of the pond)

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21 minutes ago, Lebro said:

It's not spade or bullet that matters, it's how you terminate them.  I go for crimping myself.

Go with what matches the rest of the car's wiring, i.e. bullet for wire to wire joints, & spade for wire to fixed object  - meters, switches etc.

Bob.

P.S.  You are up early !

 

 

I have lots to do, on the road today, getting some parts blasted, picking up some paint for the deflector, hopefully picking up the re-cored radiator with the fan now frame mounted, and heading to the custom hose company to get some new hoses for the heater.  All curbside pick-up except for the hose co. who are apparently an essential service.

It doesn't quite replace a month in Revelstoke but it will do.

In terms of the connectors I was asking more about the quality of the connectors.  Is there a brand(s) I should be using.

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1 minute ago, RobH said:

Yes they are often pretty much cr*p made from very thin metal -  its a pit pot-luck.  Best to buy them from a car wiring specialist. 

e.g. https://www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/category/1

(UK company but there must be equivalents on your side of the pond)

 

Thanks Rob.

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2 hours ago, Lebro said:

Are those security headed screws ?

Bob.

They were the first screws I grabbed out of the drawer.   They are Ex DC10 countersunk ‘tri-wing’ titanium screws.   The whole aircraft was covered in them. The triple spur drive depression leaves more metal in the head so they are stronger than conventional phillips’s with 4slots.  Easy to fit and torque but horrors to remove, because of the drive angles.   Recommend ‘screw-grab’ on the screwdriver tip to increase friction when trying to undo.    https://www.lasaero.com/products/article/U04GJ491X

 

cheers

Peter W

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On 1/5/2021 at 2:43 PM, David Owen said:

The existing top is 4 synchro so I will go with the 2nd option.  Not a lot of choice out there.  Thank you very much for your input everyone. 

When you decide / obtain a new cover, I need to know what size hole is in it (or you get drilled in it) in order that I can match the diameter to the dipstick.

I stopped at around 23mm dia. I drilled mine 20mm so if you do the same I will take off another 3mm or so.

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5 hours ago, Lebro said:

When you decide / obtain a new cover, I need to know what size hole is in it (or you get drilled in it) in order that I can match the diameter to the dipstick.

I stopped at around 23mm dia. I drilled mine 20mm so if you do the same I will take off another 3mm or so.

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Bob.

 

I will let you know.  It will take a couple of weeks to get here.  Thanks.

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I think you are right, but it would be easier to leave it alone and put a new one from a bolt on the gearbox bellhousing up to the battery earth on the bulkhead.

Not original but I think it gives the electrickery a more direct route.

Ralph

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35 minutes ago, Ralph Whitaker said:

I think you are right, but it would be easier to leave it alone and put a new one from a bolt on the gearbox bellhousing up to the battery earth on the bulkhead.

Not original but I think it gives the electrickery a more direct route.

Ralph

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I’ve done the same. Belt and braces. You can’t have too many earths. 

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On 1/7/2021 at 2:44 AM, Ralph Whitaker said:

I think you are right, but it would be easier to leave it alone and put a new one from a bolt on the gearbox bellhousing up to the battery earth on the bulkhead.

Not original but I think it gives the electrickery a more direct route.

Ralph

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Ok.  So my battery ground is attached to the engine block with the smaller wire grounded on the deck below the regulator.  From what I see here it should be grounded to the body.  If I attach a ground from the battery terminal to the body am I effectively accomplishing the same thing or should I still add the ground to the gearbox housing?

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As long as the engine has a heavy duty earth connection to the battery, & the body has a "medium duty" connection to either the battery or the engine,

then you will be fine.

As standard the battery to engine connection is via the body, & then the chassis, which in most cases works fine (mine does) but I can see a case for a more direct connection as well.

Bob.

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On 1/7/2021 at 8:20 AM, Hamish said:

I’ve done the same. Belt and braces. You can’t have too many earths. 

How good is the connection between the earth cable and the battery clamp?  I have the same as you and I got a volt drop across the battery to body connection point when cranking the engine.  Cleaned it all and reclamped and I now get nearer 1/4 volt drop only.

Peter W

 

PS.  Where does the law of parallel Resistors sit in the addition of extra earth leads if you have one lead that is high resistance to start off with?

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It’s the one that goes into the ground that restricts me. 
obviously the tyres isolates the whole car so you need a wire to the real earth. But it breaks as soon as I drive anywhere. 

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2 hours ago, Lebro said:

As long as the engine has a heavy duty earth connection to the battery, & the body has a "medium duty" connection to either the battery or the engine,

then you will be fine.

As standard the battery to engine connection is via the body, & then the chassis, which in most cases works fine (mine does) but I can see a case for a more direct connection as well.

Bob.

 

 

Thanks.  Medium duty is missing so I will put on on.

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59 minutes ago, Hamish said:

But it breaks as soon as I drive anywhere. 

Ah Hamish - sounds as though you need one of them newfangled wi-fi earths

https://www.wireless-earth.com/collections/vendors?q=Wireless Earth Online Shop

...............either that or tyres with metal spikes. :ph34r:

 

(Before anyone is gullible enough to take the link as actual science - -really it isn't. )

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4 minutes ago, RobH said:

Ah Hamish - sounds as though you need one of them newfangled wi-fi earths

https://www.wireless-earth.com/collections/vendors?q=Wireless Earth Online Shop

...............either that or tyres with metal spikes. :ph34r:

 

(Before anyone is gullible enough to take the link as actual science - -really it isn't. )

Trying to figure out if anyone is an anagram for David.  :lol:

 

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1 minute ago, David Owen said:

Trying to figure out if anyone is an anagram for David:lol:

 


erm

 D A V I D 

A N Y O N E

 

No ?!?!?

to many and the wrong letters. 
 

is that a trick question ?

I've been working on it for ages 

you are pulling my leg aren’t you ?!

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