monty Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 After all the publicity these 2 people & their awful Company have received over the past year or so I am astonished that anybody failed to note their swindling ways & actually did business with them! They were highlighted months ago in Traction! Speechless from Gloucestershire. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
openroad Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Hey Monty, I think that you have the Wrong end of the proverbial Stick and it's a Dirty Stick !! They have been in business since 2014 , and people's cars were and are still impounded by them, ever demanding for more money etc. They went Into Liquidation as we were taking them to court , sandmtriumph that is. So we're still high and dry, we have persevered to where we are now. So we were all already in the web, and still trying to get out of it, so we are NOT new Customers . There are many People new to the Triumph and Classic Car World, who will never have seen the bad press, and unfortunately are being duped as we speak. So as for you being Speechless, Put yourself in our Positions and the position of New Victims of Sandm classics, as they are now called , see how you might feel !!!!!!!! This has been a very difficult time to alot of Triumph Owners and it's not over yet. By the way, this post was started by a member dissatisfied with his treatment by Matthew Lambkin Smith on EBay, our member probably didn't know it was him, or if he did, might not of even heard of him. Have nice Evening, Conrad Hunt. Victim of Sandm Triumph Restoration Ltd.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
michaeldavis39 Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 (edited) I see that the S and M Classics website is still live and kicking - but if they went into liquidation how come their website is still live? No mention on it that they have ceased trading - bizarre. Oh I see same people just changed the company name no longer Triumph at the end of the name though obviously by all the photos and parts for sale its a Triumph supplier. Michael Edited January 20, 2020 by michaeldavis39 Error in company name my bad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
openroad Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Hi Michael, Sandm Triumph Restoration Ltd went into Liquidation, they had already set up 4 other companies , one of which is Sandm classics, so they could seamlessly move Into another Ltd company as Directors, apparantly this is perfectly legal , Sarah Lambkin Smith, has since resigned as a Director in October 2019. From sandm classics Ltd. They are being Investigated by the Liquidators, I really hope they find out what really happened. Cheers Conrad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
michaeldavis39 Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Wow - gobsmacked Conrad Michael Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MilesA Posted January 21, 2020 Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 14 hours ago, michaeldavis39 said: I see that the S and M Classics website is still live and kicking - but if they went into liquidation how come their website is still live? No mention on it that they have ceased trading - bizarre. Oh I see same people just changed the company name no longer Triumph at the end of the name though obviously by all the photos and parts for sale its a Triumph supplier. Michael Sadly, unless / until disqualified as directors, there is always the risk of them running phoenix companies. Miles Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Grahamgl Posted January 21, 2020 Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 Even if they are barred from being Directors there is nothing to stop them running a company and having "puppet" directors such as there parents. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
openroad Posted January 21, 2020 Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 Hi Graham , yes you are right and sadly its true, Very strange to be happening in the Classic Car World, those that have defrauded people before were found out and didn't start up again. Some have gone to prison ! It's usually happening in the Double Glazing world and such like ! In this case it was so obvious after a period of time what was going to Happen, it was just a matter of when. It was reported to all Authorities but because the law is such, there was nothing that could be done....meanwhile Classic Car Owners are realed in and relieved of their car and their money, the car is then held as a Ransom....the law must be changed !!! Cheers Conrad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tthomson Posted January 21, 2020 Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 It is unfortunate that 'Phoenixing' is practiced widely in all areas of business. The FSB (Federation of Small and medium Businesses) have tried to get Companies House to prevent this, but they say it is a civil matter, and they are powerless to stop it unless criminal legal proceedings are brought against the perpetrators (apparently for each registered company). It is a serious flaw in the way we register companies in the UK. (It is very easy to register a business). In other countries the rules are far more stringent. I am not arguing to make it more stringent in the UK, but I think someone disqualified as a director should automatically have all directorships rescinded until these are investigated. As someone who has run multiple companies, and had multiple concurrent directorships, I would support this action. TT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AlanT Posted January 21, 2020 Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 Every aspect of the commercial law and business practice in the UK is weak, useless and unenforceable as far as ordinary people are concerned. Unless you have run a small business you probably won't know this. After a while you get a 6th sense. We get by only because the vast majority in the UK are honest. So dishonest people find ii very easy. This is why UK has become the home of fraud. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Morrison Posted January 21, 2020 Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 Hi Everyone, I have the greatest sympathy with any TR owner, indeed any honest person who has been cheated by any shady dealings, but this matter has been well discussed here, and information can be found with a quick search. It is the case that content of posts is becoming, understandably heated without anything new being added, so I think its time to close this thread. John. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Morrison Posted May 28, 2021 Report Share Posted May 28, 2021 Hi all, just for information, A register member informs us that , Mathew Lambkin Smith is now at;- SC UK Autos Ltd. unit 2G, Castings Way, off leaf Bridge Road, North Hykham, Lincoln, LN69AT. John. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lebro Posted May 29, 2021 Report Share Posted May 29, 2021 Lynching party ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brian -r Posted May 29, 2021 Report Share Posted May 29, 2021 He's hiding this time, Companies House shows one director - Susan Coleshill Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tony_C Posted May 29, 2021 Report Share Posted May 29, 2021 12 hours ago, John Morrison said: Hi all, just for information, A register member informs us that , Mathew Lambkin Smith is now at;- SC UK Autos Ltd. unit 2G, Castings Way, off leaf Bridge Road, North Hykham, Lincoln, LN69AT. John. Thanks John, on behalf of all us formumites (highly unlikely I would have headed across to Lincoln) again showing the benefits of this forum Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted May 29, 2021 Report Share Posted May 29, 2021 3 hours ago, brian -r said: He's hiding this time, Companies House shows one director - Susan Coleshill Thats the new Mrs. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
openroad Posted May 31, 2021 Report Share Posted May 31, 2021 Interesting Stuff, obviously I won't be using SC UK Autos Ltd. For anything at all !!! Conrad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
roy53 Posted June 7, 2021 Report Share Posted June 7, 2021 Great info for those in the area. AVOID Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gordon Quigley Posted July 12, 2021 Report Share Posted July 12, 2021 Lamkin Smith ripped me off for around twenty grand. In 2014 payed for the restoration of a TR2 which never appeared. DO NOT TRUST THIS MAN Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Moltu Posted March 14, 2023 Report Share Posted March 14, 2023 Perhaps we should make a list of companies he is involved in and pin it. For legal reasons we should be careful about implying that any given company is untrustworthy, but a list of companies with a red BANKRUPT beside those that have gone under and NOT LISTED AS A DIRECTOR by those that are still operational or phoenix creations so that all can see before sending their money in the wrong direction? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francois HENOTTR3B Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 You'll find interesting info there : https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/12841243/officers Company "SC UK Autos LTD" has been dissolved 2 weeks ago Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 I wonder what devastation has been left in its wake. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
openroad Posted December 7, 2023 Report Share Posted December 7, 2023 Somehow he had still been allowed to be a Company Director, after all the mayhem caused. I think he still has other companies that haven't been dissolved, Thankyou for the information Francois. Conradl Quote Link to post Share on other sites
monty Posted December 8, 2023 Report Share Posted December 8, 2023 I am always amazed that in this Country directors can cheat & defraud people many times & are still allowed to go on & start up again under a different name only to repeat their cheating ways. I remember a situation a few years ago of a Company who supplied us with patio doors that turned out to be faulty. After several complaints from us & others he closed the business & went off with a new business name & run from the same premises selling the same doors & windows! Could not sue him or get the money back as he filed for bankruptcy! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted December 8, 2023 Report Share Posted December 8, 2023 Reggie & Ronnie knew how to deal with those people - Now, they had people skills - emphasis on the KILL Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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