Richardtr3a Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 We need a new woodburner for the cold evenings. The current one has a removable heat deflector plate over the logs and the smoke has to travel around the plate and go up the chimney. But this is not always working and smoke will escape into the room and can be a slight sting in your eyes. So we are researching a good quality log fire with a proper working chimney connection. It will burn five or six logs over three hours and warm the room. This unfortunately means that you are warm enough for the news at ten, We have to give up with the usual news which seems quite depressing and find something else for the end of the evening . Has anyone any good advice please ? Richard & B Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Cobbold Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 It should be enclosed with glass in the door(s). If not the chimney will rapidly pull warmed air out of the room. We burn smokeless fuel 24/7 all winter in the main room, about half a bucket daily. Not green I know, but the fire does not fail when the leccy supply does ! A flat top allows a pan to be heated. The fire never goes out, a covering of ash over new nuggets will easlly smoulder for 12 hours overnight. However smokeless fuel is sulphur-rich, the tailings from oil refiining, so check the specs. A carbon monoxide alarm/monitor is wise if there is the possibility of combustion gases leaking. Peter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR Rob Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 Jotul multifuel ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Motorsport Mickey Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 (edited) Hi Richard, It's tempting to just burn logs in an open fireplace but the heat loss from the room up the chimney is depressing. Whilst mulling the purchase of a heat stove (not bought yet) I came across these videos... https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=recoheat+heat+recovery+unit The Recoheat is a flue heat recovery unit which can be inserted into a flue or constrained (tube fed) chimney. Take a look at the video, completed in a semi professional manner it appears to show significant advantages withy the only ongoing financial outlay (another Reco heat video in this area says about 17 amp draw per hour...miniscule) being for a small exterior compressor (similar to an air pump on a fish tank aquarium) which propels the heated air out of the flue and into the room. The noise is akin to blowing over your lips until they vibrate...not much, and if the air pump is positioned outside your house window or in another room will be absolutely quiet. It appears to show that the Recoheat will warm rooms very quickly and continue to extract the heat from the flue and stove for a considerable time (hours ?) whilst they cool back to ambient temperature. Maybe worth considering. Mick Richards Edited April 16 by Motorsport Mickey Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keith1948 Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 We have a Franco Belge Montfort (made in UK). It is rated 5kW and comes in different colours. With regard to your smoke problem, do you have an air brick because to allow smoke up the chimney you need fresh air to enter the room. Maybe trickle vents in the windows? Below 5kW you don't have to have an air brick. Above 5kW you do. You need to size the stove according to the size of the room. We have a small living room and up to 5kW is plenty. You must have a smoke and Carbon monoxide alarm. The hearth should extend 12 inches in front of stove. There are also other regulations regarding proximity and construction of surroundings. Worth checking you still comply with latest info. Franco Belge brochure http://www.countywoodburningcentre.co.uk/stove-brochures/franco-belge-stove-brochure.pdf We also got a stove top fan that sits on the flat top and propels air into the room. We were sceptical this would work but it does. There are several types available. We got a Valiant. It helps circulate the warm air into the room. Our old brick chimney was lined with the pumice pipe system. If the chimney is too wide you won't get as good draw of air up it. Hope this helps Keith Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 We have had multi fuel stoves for the last 25 years. Layer of coal for heat and then a log for a flame to make it look pretty. Can't recommend enough - very easy to light, clean and efficient. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 We have two Dovre multi fuel stoves. Both have to be above a certain efficiency to satisfy the clean air zone we live in. They are both certificated to prove this. https://dovre.co.uk We too have stove top fans bought from Lidl at about £20 each and a thermometer to confirm it is all burning hot enough. Both chimneys are flue lined and the installations were completed by HETAS approved installer. I reduced the grate size this year on our 7 kw stove using fire bricks as advised by the maker as the stove threw out too much heat for the room size. It is bordering on tropical! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 Good job your not in Scotland as they want to ban them. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 3 hours ago, stuart said: Good job your not in Scotland as they want to ban them. Stuart. As does the current mayor of London, unless he can work out how to shove his hand in the owner’s pockets. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 1 hour ago, BlueTR3A-5EKT said: As does the current mayor of London, unless he can work out how to shove his hand in the owner’s pockets. Im sure he will find a way, he`s screwing everyone else over. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harlequin Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 We have had both Dovre and Jotul stoves in the past, and now have a Franco Belge multifuel all of them have been good, the ones to avoid are those made from boiler plate that are normally quite a bit cheaper but won't last very long. Personally I would go for a multifuel and burn smokeless coal and wood as others have suggested. George Quote Link to post Share on other sites
monty Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 We replaced an old Morso Squirrel last year for various reasons & bought a new Danish model which we are very pleased with but beware of recent regulations in regard to distances from floors & walls etc, chimney lining & heaven knows what as it is a minefield these days with regard to wood burners. Some chimney sweeps in our area will not go near them unless the specs. are absolutely perfect! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Richmac Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 On 4/15/2024 at 11:08 PM, Richardtr3a said: We need a new woodburner for the cold evenings. The current one has a removable heat deflector plate over the logs and the smoke has to travel around the plate and go up the chimney. But this is not always working and smoke will escape into the room and can be a slight sting in your eyes. So we are researching a good quality log fire with a proper working chimney connection. It will burn five or six logs over three hours and warm the room. This unfortunately means that you are warm enough for the news at ten, We have to give up with the usual news which seems quite depressing and find something else for the end of the evening . Has anyone any good advice please ? Richard & B The 5kw log burners do not require additional ventilation if the house design permeability is >5.0m3. generally this is considered to be houses built before 2008 after which building regulations required tighter air leakage control. Log burners do have baffles that are designed to recirculate air back over the glass for burning of the hydrocarbons still present in the gasses released. If your baffle is not fitted correctly it will not work as it should. I'm assuming your chimney is not blocked and you have it swept regularly? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PGB BME Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 Clear View Stoves Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dic Doretti Posted April 20 Report Share Posted April 20 I have a Jotul No. 3 stove, about 5Kw which works well in a 300 year old draughty farm house and currently restoring a Jotul 118 stove for the kitchen which takes 600mm logs which should save a lot of sawing. Having to make new baffles out of 1/4" steel plate but not sure how long they will last, new cast iron baffles available in the USA but suspect the postage would be crippling! Cheers Richard Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iain Posted April 20 Report Share Posted April 20 We have two Woodwarm log burners. They are amazing pieces of kit, the control over rate of burn is brilliant…..so good that our Franco belge has been evicted and replaced by a secondhand Woodwarm. No association apart from being a very happy and warm customer. ( Made in the Uk too) Iain Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave I O W Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 On 4/18/2024 at 9:31 PM, PGB BME said: Clear View Stoves +1 for Clear View Stoves I've had one for 23 years one of the best Cheers Dave. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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