Bleednipple Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 10 minutes ago, ntc said: Time will tell, sponsor’s tv subscription’s will fall [...] In the spirit of the panto season: Oh No They Won't. Nigel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ntc Posted December 14, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bleednipple said: In the spirit of the panto season: Oh No They Won't. Nigel In the same spirit how many on here have said they will not be watching again Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bleednipple Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 1 minute ago, ntc said: In the same spirit how many on here have said they will not be watching again Oh Yes They Will. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john.r.davies Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 (edited) I admit that I can't tell the history of the FIA's F1 REgulations, but I'm familiar (as I should be) with Motorposrt UK's Yearbook, the 'Bluebook' of motorsport regulations. And I know how much that has evolved in the years I've been racing. I suppose that the Rules of Golf, Ballroom Dancing and Shuffleboard have evolved in the same way, as events unfold and reveal the inadequacies of previous wording. The Bluebook has certainly got thicker, and presumably more expensive to produce, so that MUK doesn't send you a copy when you get your licence any more. I don't think that when it was written, a last lap Pace car was foreseen, BN, so there will probably be a revision ro 39.12 next year! PS, RE the above debate (Oh, yes it is!) it was the Touring Cars (BTCC) that attracted enormous crowds and TV contracts,by alowing conduct on track that would never have bene tolerated in anyother championship. This was intentional, and unbeliveabaly allowed by the RAC which at one time included a paragraph in the Bluebook that allowed BTCC to police its own discipline! "No one ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the human race" Edited December 14, 2021 by john.r.davies Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tony_C Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 Deggers and Nigel are completely and irrefutably correct…… Even before all the shenanigans of Sundays last lap, F1 was gaining a huge increase in new followers and the demographics are much wider than one (better nameless for the moment ) or two miserable and bitter old gits…… I heard a little while ago that an entirely new generation of teenagers and young folk in their twenties, including substantial number of girls previously uninterested, have been drawn in by watching the ‘Drive to Survive’ series on Netflix….. I’ve not seen it nor know nothing about it but it has led to an entirely new paradigm shift in F1 viewers. On a final note to Waldi, Well done to your truculent, surly young tear away……… ‘Normal’ service will be resumed next year with Lewis and the talented young Lando fighting over the podium top spot?! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mick Forey Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 I want to see how George Russell performs next to Lewis - team player or serious competitor? Mick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Harbottle Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 25 minutes ago, Mick Forey said: I want to see how George Russell performs next to Lewis - team player or serious competitor? Mick I agree, when he drove Lewis's car he looked seriouse, but when the pit crew messed up (to put it politely) he didn't complain much. Time will tell no doubt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deggers Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 23 minutes ago, Tony_C said: . . . it has led to an entirely new paradigm shift in F1 viewers. And their demands are first and foremost, to be entertained. Whether they agreed with the ruling of events on Sunday or not, they certainly got themselves a spectacle: and one which they'd reach into their pockets to pay for every day of the week. From the same 2021 survey : "Penetration of pay-TV is high, with half of the fans now watching races on pay TV. 68% of fans say that in the future they want to watch the live races on TV, while 13.8% say they want to watch online." Deggers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AndyR100 Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 2 hours ago, ntc said: In the same spirit how many on here have said they will not be watching again Indeed, but what people say and what they actually do in the future are often very different things. ....... Andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stillp Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Deggers said: "Penetration of pay-TV is high, with half of the fans now watching races on pay TV. Well that's not surprising given that pay TV is the only opportunity to watch most F1 races live. Pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ntc Posted December 14, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 (edited) Sky is in talks with the BBC As for the young drivers they will adopt to Max,s driving style do you really want to see that? Edited December 14, 2021 by ntc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ian Vincent Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Tony_C said: On a final note to Waldi, Well done to your truculent, surly young tear away……… ‘Normal’ service will be resumed next year with Lewis and the talented young Lando fighting over the podium top spot?! Next year will see a whole raft of changes to F1 cars from bits of the engine to wholesale changes to the aerodynamics. It will be the team that gets those changes right who will lead the pack. In view of the strong focus on aerodynamics RB will be up there with a good chance as they have Adrian Newey as their Director of Engineering. On the other hand how good will their new engine be? Rgds Ian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SuzanneH Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 (edited) I don’t believe that the youngsters will be watching live F 1, on TV, in the future. In my experience they only watch what they want to see at a time that suits their lifestyle. I would like to see Nielsen’s Market Research Co’ do a follow up survey, in the same vein, as their previous one but of a sample of people who watched the fiasco on Sunday. It would be interesting to compare the results of before and after. Edited December 14, 2021 by SuzanneH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ntc Posted December 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 So the awards ceremony today and Mercedes did not attend and Alonso said they should share the title Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stillp Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 The "title" is meaningless this year, it doesn't matter who has it. Pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Morrison Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, stillp said: The "title" is meaningless this year, it doesn't matter who has it. Pete Tend to agree, it will always be tainted, and thats a shame, not that I'm a fan, for Verstappen. Really good you tube video with David Croft, (Won't let me bring here) but well worth a watch, but I cannot, just cannot see, how Masi, can ever be kept in this role. John. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Smith Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 I wonder if Lewis will return, no one would blame him if he didn't: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john.r.davies Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 Hamilton has a contract with Mercedes until 2023. It's worth $40 million a year. He must have more money that he could ever want, and contracts are just there to be broken, but I read his character to be as competitive as anyone. I think he will return. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgLfOrVJJMg&ab_channel=moviequotesoneliners JOhn Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ntc Posted December 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 He is a man of principle and I think he will walk away Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, ntc said: He is a man of principle and I think he will walk away Hhhmmmm not sure that he will. Not that I think he is unprincipled- far from it, I think he really has a point to prove now. and 2 years with full merc backing to get a world record (possibly unbeatable) 8th world championship ?! Russell as wing man. His reward can be no.1 Driver after Lewis ( and toto) has gone. I think Lewis and toto are a package and it will be both moving forward or neither. Edited December 19, 2021 by Hamish Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bluestone Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 Controversially losing the drivers title in 2021 whilst also seeking a record 8th championship, may be strong incentives for Sir Lewis of Hamilton to return in 2022...... there's plenty of unfinished business for him to enjoy. Ray Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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