nausea while working under the TR

[Casar66]

Hi guys
an unusual question:
For some time now, I've been getting a bit nauseous whenever I screw under the car. Today again when I started to remove the differential. But today it was so extreme that I stopped after half an hour. The nausea is joined by body heat and circulatory problems (white face, rapid breathing (but not that heavy)). When I have to stop, I need a few minutes with deep breathing in and out, then it's over again. At the beginning I thought it was due to the unaccustomed screwing while lying down, now I suspect the "scent" of the gear oil, engine oil, like such an allergic reaction.
Can anyone report something similar?

rgs

Cas

Edited October 22, 2023 by Casar66

[Phil Read]

get your blood pressure checked.

[RogerH]

also get your ears checked out - dizzyness  etc.

 

Roger

[Hamish]

I think Phil Has a good idea here 

[PodOne]

+1 Go see your GP and get checked out.

[Casar66]

Blood pressure is checked and always very good: 110 /70

 

 

[Charlie D]

1 hour ago, Casar66 said:

...now I suspect the "scent" of the gear oil, engine oil, like such an allergic reaction...

I suppose that a test to see if that is the problem is to go through the same actions on the kitchen floor and see if it makes you feel ill.

Don't do it on a bed, as you need to recreate exactly the same situation. (A hard floor.)

It also sounds a bit like a "Panic attack". Maybe Claustrophobia.

Charlie

[Peter Cobbold]

JohnD will be expert on this. most of his pts will have been lying down...

[John Morrison]

I cannot lie dad flat under a TR, or I get a nauseous feeling.

If I have a simple support under my head, usually an old cushion etc., then I'm fine, My blood pressure and everything else is OK Too!

John.

[R9mey]

Hi

I suffer from this alot, in my case it's 'age' and it's been getting worse the older I get.

I just avoid laying on my back, I have a two post lift which which allows me to still to do the majority of things.

The actual cause for me is balance related, ears etc.

It got significantly worse following a severe bump on the head which resulted in some crystals being dislodged in the inner ear, the epley maneuver sorted that out.

 

[lee]

I’ve had this, put me out for the day. No idea why, now if I feel slightly odd I give it up to avoid it 

[Andy Moltu]

Repeat out of the garage.

I f symptoms are not replicated it's not you.  If they are it is and needs checking out (most probably cardiac or positional vertigo)

Aside from fuel fumes there isn't much from the car to explain it. If the garage doors are wide open does it occur?

Any other hazardous things in there such as thinners. Do you have a gas heater? CO or CO2. 

 

[Malbaby]

I get similar symtoms, just like being "sea sick"...Vertigo unfortunately....no easy treatment.

Now have a 2 post car hoist..

Edited October 22, 2023 by Malbaby

[Casar66]

Well, good to read that I am not the only one. Since I am lying under cars I know this, means since 40 years. But it was never ever a problem. But last year it was not good already when I changed the real Hub and the gearbox. But today it was just too much. I tried a second time but again I had to stop. And I am not a sissy. And I am still not well yet.

Ah, and no thinners, no heftig and lot of fresh air (my Garage is a barn)

"sea sick" describes it pretty well!

 

Edited October 22, 2023 by Casar66

[Hamish]

I have had occasions of this type of vertigo

try a motion sickness medication. Car sickness tablet. May help 

[BlueTR3A-5EKT]

This technique solves my wife’s problem that sounds just like yours.      Mentioned earlier the Epley manoeuvre 

<<<<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBzID5nVQjk>>>>

 

 

Edited October 23, 2023 by BlueTR3A-5EKT

[Harbottle]

18 hours ago, RogerH said:

also get your ears checked out - dizzyness  etc.

 

Roger

A sound suggestion (if you will excuse the pun) As others intimate, your ears can cause the symptoms you experience. Motion sickness is brought on by inner ear issues, you don't have to be in a car to cause it. Bending up and down too quick or indeed lying flat on the floor while moving head into position to see what your doing under a car can cause it also. Wife had a bout of vertigo while just sitting in a chair, caused sickness and dizziness . All down to a slight ear infection.

[TRier]

Hi Cas, I get the same thing, really severe, it can take several hours to recover. A lot of factors can provoke it,  the under the car thing can be associated with not being able to get the object of your attention in the correct focus range for your eyes or glasses because of the space restriction. It also seems it can be blood pressure or maybe inner ear associated,  for example working upside down under the dash is guaranteed to make me sick, you'll probably need to be careful with that.  Remove the seats and try to make it as easy and quick as you can with the upside down bit.  

As others have mentioned, a lift as you get older becomes almost a must have,  being sick takes all the pleasure out of the work. You'll develop tools and techniques to avoid where possible the situations that make you sick. It developed with me as I got older, I've tried balance specialists and physiotherapists specialising in vertigo (yep there are such things), by all means try,  for me I couldn't get any of it to work so just tried to get a bit smart about how I tackle things. Wish I had a better answer for you,  it is what it is I'm afraid. 

[Casar66]

thanks a lot guys. I made an appointment with my doctor next week.

Good to know that some have made their own experiences and shared them here in that forum. I got a lot of hints to check and I am very excited what the reason behind this is.  

many thanks!

Cas

Edited October 23, 2023 by Casar66

[Peter Cobbold]

From my experience  of both, the original post does not seem to describe vertigo ( search Benign Positional vertigo, an inner ear issue) but a hypotensive episode. When blood pressure drops we feel cold, sweaty and have a palour. Most often it happens when we suddenly stand up from sitting or lying. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/low-blood-pressure/symptoms-causes/syc-20355465

The closest I can find to hypotension happening when lying down ('supine') is in pregnant women: the extra abdominal mass presses on the inferior vena cava and restricts blood return to heart. So.....excess abdominal mass when lying on the back under a car....might be an explanation. Measuring blood pressure is not too difficult and DIY cuffs are available.

Peter

 

[PodOne]

Given the duration and type of symptoms go see your GP. If its nothing then what have you lost other than time.

Andy