Gary Flinn Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 Just Noticed this on the Carandclassic site https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C972229 How much will this one fetch I wonder? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 Hasn't this been here before. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytr5 Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 Hasn't this been here before. Roger Was,nt that CP2 Roger and at one time owned by TR Bitz. Did not know CP1 existed. Regards Harry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 Does look like any other restored 5 now though. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marko Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 The ride height is incorrect on the rear IMHO....perhaps the wrong springs or it's had a rear shock conversion! I think the current owner resides quite near Stansted Airport unless I'm mistaken...? ) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 +1 to Stuarts post. Is this a tribute car, using the orig number plate? When did TR5 start using Air Bleed tick-over control ??? Peter W Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tr graham Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 Halfway through Peter. But not that type Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pfenlon Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) Was,nt that CP2 Roger and at one time owned by TR Bitz. Did not know CP1 existed. Regards Harry Being a bit of a Doubting Thomas, I am amazed that the usually very well informed TR5 community have never heard of this car its registration or history. I shall do some local digging. Bitz did own CP2, and had CP1 in for work at the same time, the car was restored NOT to standard spec either, which is a bit silly. Edited March 16, 2018 by pfenlon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 It is a real shame to restore a car as significant as that and not retain the features that mark it out as being what it was, stuff like the pump under the bonnet and the lack of air bleed etc etc. Yes I know the factory pretty soon changed all those things and more but for this car they should be there as that makes it what it is. Years ago I owned a very early series 1 XJ6 and those early cars were assembled "Offline" so had lots of very different features that were soon changed when the proper production line got going but when I restored that I made sure it had all those features retained to mark it out as to what it was. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mehere Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 The ride height is incorrect on the rear IMHO....perhaps the wrong springs or it's had a rear shock conversion! I think the current owner resides quite near Stansted Airport unless I'm mistaken...? ) I was just wondering, it may well just be the camera angle :- but the full on rear picture seems to show the left hand rear wheel/tyre sitting a little proud of the bodywork?. Or are they "all like that"? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MikeThomas Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 Could be parked on uneven ground, looks like soft grass verge. I've just had a look at mine in the profile photo, this was on tarmac. Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mark & Sarah Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 CP1 was featured in the Daily Telegraph this morning (still sitting high on the rear) up for aution on the 11/04 est £60k Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boxofbits Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 (edited) It is a real shame to restore a car as significant as that and not retain the features that mark it out as being what it was, stuff like the pump under the bonnet and the lack of air bleed etc etc. Yes I know the factory pretty soon changed all those things and more but for this car they should be there as that makes it what it is. Years ago I owned a very early series 1 XJ6 and those early cars were assembled "Offline" so had lots of very different features that were soon changed when the proper production line got going but when I restored that I made sure it had all those features retained to mark it out as to what it was. Stuart. Fully agree. To obliterate any early production features, regardless of whether they function well or not is sacrilege. Classic car speculators are known for this type of thing. The same people who rip out original Victorian fireplaces and original sash windows for UPVC believing they are making improvements ! Kevin Kevin Edited March 23, 2018 by boxofbits Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Duncan Jolly Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 I too spotted it in the Telegraph this morning and was sure I had seen it before, but as stated above I think that was CP2. If genuine then I am with everyone else ideally it should be as it left the factory to be significant to a true enthusiast. Many small details wrong, and it does not look like a recent restoration. Every chance past owners have made small modifications to "improve" it possibly unaware of what they had. Was not the bleed valve a recommended factory retro fit sent to garages to fit when servicing? It will be interesting to see what it fetches and if it turns up at Lincoln. A good number of the early cars now exist, I am still seeking CP6 LHP 293F the TR 5 that got me to give up Mini's. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 I too spotted it in the Telegraph this morning and was sure I had seen it before, but as stated above I think that was CP2. If genuine then I am with everyone else ideally it should be as it left the factory to be significant to a true enthusiast. Many small details wrong, and it does not look like a recent restoration. Every chance past owners have made small modifications to "improve" it possibly unaware of what they had. Was not the bleed valve a recommended factory retro fit sent to garages to fit when servicing? It will be interesting to see what it fetches and if it turns up at Lincoln. A good number of the early cars now exist, I am still seeking CP6 LHP 293F the TR 5 that got me to give up Mini's. By the looks of the bleed valve its a standard 6 type, the ones retro fitted were nothing like that. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MikeThomas Posted April 11, 2018 Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 It went for £50,000 after the auction estimate was £50,000 - £60,000. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted April 11, 2018 Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 Probably because they had restored all the originality out of it. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MikeThomas Posted April 11, 2018 Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 Stuart, if I remember rightly, CP2 went for £79,995 in July 17. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
openroad Posted April 11, 2018 Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 Apparently sold for £50 K Conrad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted April 11, 2018 Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 Stuart, if I remember rightly, CP2 went for £79,995 in July 17. Last time I saw that one it looked a lot more original than this one. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tim T Posted April 11, 2018 Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 I watched this live on-line and the auctioneer really didn't seem to to make any great effort to 'sell' it. Mentioned it was CP1 and descibed it as a TR5 P1(one) and that was it! Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
openroad Posted April 11, 2018 Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 A friend of mine was there, he said the same thing Tim. Not A lot of effort made . Strange . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MikeThomas Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 Tim/Openroad I also followed it on line from very early on and the first auctioneer was superb until this idiot took over. I will be polite, in my view the second auctioneer that sold CP1 was useless, he kept getting his lots, words wrong and was constantly wittering away with his thoughts out loud. That said it gives the buyer the opportunity to spend on bringing back its originality as CP2 went for circa £79,995 last year.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gary Flinn Posted April 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 (edited) I often watch the Chasing Classic cars programme from the US with Wayne Carrini, it's surprising how certain Auctioneers can get the best price out of the Bidders? Still surprised it didn't go for more, although if the originality is compromised that will put people off. Gary Edited April 12, 2018 by Gary Flinn Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MikeThomas Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 Anyone able to confirm the re number of the 'CP1' that went at auction (its no longer showing on the auction site) a few weeks ago for £50.000? Was it LHP 288F or LHP 289F? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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