dave bailey Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 Just mounted the chassis on its supports on the bench, ready for the body rebuild, and have a few questions which I'm hoping you can help me with. 1st. would it be a good idea to load the chassis with say sand bags to simulate the engine and gearbox weight (as suggested by Roger Williams in his book- 'How to restore Triumph TR5/250 & 6').? 2nd. I'll probably find out in due course, but looking at the attached photos - what goes into the threaded holes on the top T shirt? there doesn't seem to be any sort of bolt or screw shown on the parts diagram. (circled) 3rd. This is a TR6 chassis, but for the life of me I can't work out what the bracket by the steering arm mounting bracket is for (circled). Thanks in anticipation. Dave. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brenda Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 (edited) Hi Dave, is the threaded bolts on photo 2 for the H frame! Mike Redrose Group Edited March 25 by brenda Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PodOne Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 20 minutes ago, brenda said: Hi Dave, is the threaded bolts on photo 2 for the H frame! Mike Redrose Group I think you will find Dave they are for the seat belt stalk and IIRC the seat runner? Andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brenda Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 (edited) Are not the right end of the car though it was the front Mike Redrose Group Edited March 25 by brenda Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Motorsport Mickey Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 I've not got a TR6 but is the circled bracket an anti "shunt" bracket to stop the steering rack displacing backwards and the steering column spearing the drivers chest...unless I dreamt it. Mick Richards Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PodOne Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 43 minutes ago, brenda said: Are not the right end of the car Mike Redrose Group We are looking towards the back trailing arms/T shirt with the diff bridge at the back of the pic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 The bolt holes in the T shirt are for the seat belts and as Mick says the hump at the front cross member is a safety feature. TBH Ive never bothered to weight down when building because if the chassis is good then it shouldnt move enough to make any odds. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dave bailey Posted March 26 Author Report Share Posted March 26 Thanks for the inputs guys. Yes, the position of the outer of the two holes circled would seem to correspond with the position of the seat belt stalk. Upon further investigation, the inner two holes are not threaded, so a bit of a mystery. I get what you're saying about the possibility that the strange bracket by the steering rack support being some sort of safety device, but surely it would be on the other side to stop any spearing business. On a similar theme, The body to chassis fitting kit which I bought from Moss contains a couple of strange rectangular belled mounting plates for the forward two body mounting holes on the T shirt, where on the parts diagram it seems to indicate a flat reinforcing plate. Can't quite see how they fit in any sensible way. Any thoughts? Dave. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gloide69 Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 I think the plates have the indentation to accommodate the pressings in the floor. Paul Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 The plate fits like this. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 1 hour ago, dave bailey said: Thanks for the inputs guys. Yes, the position of the outer of the two holes circled would seem to correspond with the position of the seat belt stalk. Upon further investigation, the inner two holes are not threaded, so a bit of a mystery. I get what you're saying about the possibility that the strange bracket by the steering rack support being some sort of safety device, but surely it would be on the other side to stop any spearing business. On a similar theme, The body to chassis fitting kit which I bought from Moss contains a couple of strange rectangular belled mounting plates for the forward two body mounting holes on the T shirt, where on the parts diagram it seems to indicate a flat reinforcing plate. Can't quite see how they fit in any sensible way. Any thoughts? Dave. The bracket is actually to stop the engine moving forward Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dave bailey Posted March 26 Author Report Share Posted March 26 Thanks yes I was coming around to that way of thinking, but that confirms it. Ta. Dave. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
roy53 Posted April 10 Report Share Posted April 10 A bit late but here’s it Roy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted April 10 Report Share Posted April 10 17 minutes ago, roy53 said: A bit late but here’s it Roy Roy you might want to look at the weld where the rack bracket joins the flat top of the inner wishbone box, looks cracked to me. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted April 10 Report Share Posted April 10 Here and here possibly Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted April 10 Report Share Posted April 10 1 hour ago, RogerH said: Here and here possibly No the left hand line you indicate is the lower inner bracket shim line. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted April 10 Report Share Posted April 10 quite so . But I thought whilst Roy is looking at one he can look at the other. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malbaby Posted April 20 Report Share Posted April 20 (edited) Hi Dave...I am at a similar stage to you. Do you plan to fit the body before mounting the engine and transmission....[Much easier afterwards]. Also....I have private messaged you. Edited April 21 by Malbaby Quote Link to post Share on other sites
michaelfinnis Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 On 3/26/2024 at 12:37 PM, stuart said: The bracket is actually to stop the engine moving forward Stuart. Only just read this thread, but I’m intrigued by the said bracket. I’ve read elsewhere that it’s to stop the engine moving forward, but why would Triumph be so bothered about that? Also, logically the larger end would surely face rearward, not forwards in that case. A safety device to stop the steering column moving back would make more sense to me, but then why only on the left side? Only required for the American market due to stricter safety regulations there maybe? Mike. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dave bailey Posted April 22 Author Report Share Posted April 22 Hi Mike. I think that you are right, in that it was a safety mod required by the American market. Dave. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dave bailey Posted April 22 Author Report Share Posted April 22 Hi Malcolm. To be honest I haven't thought far enough ahead yet to work out whether to fit the engine and transmission before the body goes on as the body is going to take at least another couple of years, and the engine is going to need a rebuild. the gearbox and overdrive is sorted though! Slowly, slowly cachee monkee. Dave. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave McDonald Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 Engine and gearbox on chassis first for me. Apart from having to lift body a bit higher to clear engine when placing it on chassis it’s so much easier to manoeuvre without new paint damage. Very tight fitting engine and g/box as one lump down at an angle into body if you fit body to chassis first. Easy to scrape new paint, particularly on bulkhead above transmission tunnel. If you do decide to fit body first, then engine and box leave the g/box lid off to give a bit more wiggle room. Dave McD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dave bailey Posted April 25 Author Report Share Posted April 25 I think you're right Dave, that's what I'll do too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytr5 Posted April 28 Report Share Posted April 28 I concur. Fit engine gearbox and all suspension to make a rolling chassis. Regards Harry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kiwifrog Posted April 28 Report Share Posted April 28 28 minutes ago, harrytr5 said: I concur. Fit engine gearbox and all suspension to make a rolling chassis. Regards Harry Wow a 1 to 1 scale airfix kit! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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