Paul Hogan Posted December 5, 2023 Report Share Posted December 5, 2023 A couple of years ago I posted about an event that took place in 1956 about an economy 'race' between a TR3 and Auster J4 from lands End to John O'Groats. I discovered that both the aircraft and a sister car still existed and so I decided to see if I could recreate this challenge and raise some money for the Guide Dogs charity along the way as they benefited from the original event. Below is the article I submitted about the restaging of this event which took place in September at the Goodwood Revival and should have appeared in the latest edition of TrAction but it failed to make the editors cut and was to be held over to the January issue. Naturally, I was very disappointed about this having put two years of work into the project and given assurances that it would be in the 'next mag'. I cannot see the point of holding it over to January/February for by then it will be at least five month out of date and so I have reproduced it here on the web. One would have thought that it it might also have been given some prominence on our web page as the TR Register very kindly made the donation to the Guide Dogs charity but that didn't happen either. In my opinion the Register wasted a wonderful PR opportunity because they failed to get on board with the project. At least it did make 'best article' in Octane magazine and 'The Auster' so it did reach a wider audience but it could have been so much more. If readers can detect that I am feeling rather disillusioned over they way this whole project has been handled by the club then you would be right. However, that wont change things so enjoy the read because it really was a great event even though it was beset with problems right up to the last minute. Hoges. History can and does repeat itself.doc History can and does repeat itself.doc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cvtrian Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 Well done Paul, a great achievement and story, and as you say, a shame the TR Register missed out. Ian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR NIALL Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 Goodman Paul I’m sure that was a very interesting adventure and thanks for the Write Up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 Hi Paul, a wonderful achievement and typical bad handling by the club. Sad to see you leave the club but your life will be enriched in pastures anew. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francois HENOTTR3B Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 Congrats, very interesting ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pfenlon Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 16 hours ago, Paul Hogan said: A couple of years ago I posted about an event that took place in 1956 about an economy 'race' between a TR3 and Auster J4 from lands End to John O'Groats. I discovered that both the aircraft and a sister car still existed and so I decided to see if I could recreate this challenge and raise some money for the Guide Dogs charity along the way as they benefited from the original event. Below is the article I submitted about the restaging of this event which took place in September at the Goodwood Revival and should have appeared in the latest edition of TrAction but it failed to make the editors cut and was to be held over to the January issue. Naturally, I was very disappointed about this having put two years of work into the project and given assurances that it would be in the 'next mag'. I cannot see the point of holding it over to January/February for by then it will be at least five month out of date and so I have reproduced it here on the web. One would have thought that it it might also have been given some prominence on our web page as the TR Register very kindly made the donation to the Guide Dogs charity but that didn't happen either. In my opinion the Register wasted a wonderful PR opportunity because they failed to get on board with the project. At least it did make 'best article' in Octane magazine and 'The Auster' so it did reach a wider audience but it could have been so much more. If readers can detect that I am feeling rather disillusioned over they way this whole project has been handled by the club then you would be right. However, that wont change things so enjoy the read because it really was a great event even though it was beset with problems right up to the last minute. Hoges. History can and does repeat itself.doc 15.52 MB · 55 downloads History can and does repeat itself.doc 15.52 MB · 55 downloads The new editor of TRaction hasn't been in the job for more than 5 minutes, I sent him a small article that I had submitted couple of years previously but wasn't deemed be of note to the membership, now in the bin I expect. He liked the article and said that he would try and include it in the next publication, but if not, in the next one. Let's give the man some time at least to get his teeth into the job. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mick Forey Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 Well done Paul. Shame that your article missed the latest issue but as Pete says Trev is still new to the role and still relatively new to the club, so please give him some leeway. It will still be news to 99% of the club when it hits the next issue. For those people who didn't read the article: you would have read that the TR Register donated the £500 prize money. The club supported Pauls' efforts to the full extent that he requested. The MT made that decision back in June. Nice to hear now that the project did go ahead and was a success. Mick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lebro Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 Well done Paul. I saw the TR at Goodwood on the Sunday, but was unaware of the significance of it being there - should have read the info board ! Bob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rod1883 Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 Couple of pictures from the Saturday Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iain Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 Well done Paul, but I do think we should cut the new editor of TRaction some slack. It will make a great read in the next issue I’m sure. Iain Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish Posted December 7, 2023 Report Share Posted December 7, 2023 16 hours ago, iain said: Well done Paul, but I do think we should cut the new editor of TRaction some slack. It will make a great read in the next issue I’m sure. Iain Whole heartedly agree. It may even be the case that it has taken the wind out of his sales to have it released/printed on the web before TRAction can use? it becomes a second hand story ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobH Posted December 7, 2023 Report Share Posted December 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, Hamish said: it becomes a second hand story ? Only for the minority of members who frequent the forum Hamish, including non-members who will not get the mag anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cvtrian Posted December 7, 2023 Report Share Posted December 7, 2023 Cutting the editor some slack is appropriate, but surely it ought to have been actively promoted within the TR Register! These historical events are a significant part of the marque TR history/story and the positive PR potential within the classic car world from Paul's efforts was huge. If the TR Register stumped up the £500 prize (imho highly commendable) surely members were entitled to know about this before the event, and get behind it as it was happening, not reading about it more than 6 months after it happened, and even worse, some members seeing the car at Goodwood and not knowing anything about it...... The club has an active email/newsletter system to all members, not just TR Action, as I was rightly reminded when I commented about next years gathering at Malvern. A TR beating an aeroplane in a race is a great story. Ian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted December 8, 2023 Report Share Posted December 8, 2023 On 12/6/2023 at 5:39 PM, Rod1883 said: Couple of pictures from the Saturday Hmm that old chestnut again Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iain Posted December 8, 2023 Report Share Posted December 8, 2023 2 hours ago, stuart said: Hmm that old chestnut again Stuart. :-) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Hogan Posted December 9, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 On 12/6/2023 at 2:59 PM, Mick Forey said: Well done Paul. Shame that your article missed the latest issue but as Pete says Trev is still new to the role and still relatively new to the club, so please give him some leeway. It will still be news to 99% of the club when it hits the next issue. For those people who didn't read the article: you would have read that the TR Register donated the £500 prize money. The club supported Pauls' efforts to the full extent that he requested. The MT made that decision back in June. Nice to hear now that the project did go ahead and was a success. Mick You are missing the point Mick. It's not a question of giving the new editor some slack. I was assured that it would be in the next mag and that assurance turned out to be worthless. I see little point in publicising something which will now be five months out of date. We should be advertising up coming events. The other gripe I have is that the board knew what I was trying to achieve for the best part of two years but not once was I asked how it was going. I really appreciated the donation to the guide dogs charity as did they but what PR did the registet get out of it? Absolutely none. And yet we employ a PR professional who didn't/ couldn't be bothered to get in touch with me about it when I asked him to. Having this event staged at the Goodwood Revival where over 100,000 people were in attendance at arguably the most prestigious classic car event in the UK just goes to show how out of touch the board are. After all, you told me in June when I was in Holland with you that the register would be putting up the £500 donation so the club had plenty of time to organise something. At the very least this should have appeared in Classic Car weekly and Practical Classics or been circulated to all the other classic car mags. It was only by my own efforts that it appeared in Octane, the Auster and the Guide Dogs magazines. Hoges Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Glasbey Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 Well done Paul....a great story. First I knew about it was your letter in Octane, after the Goodwood event. TR Register should have promoted this widely before the event ! Chris. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rod1883 Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 On 12/8/2023 at 2:48 PM, stuart said: Hmm that old chestnut again Stuart. OK - I have to bite, what is an old Chestnut? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
roy53 Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 29 minutes ago, Chris Glasbey said: Well done Paul....a great story. First I knew about it was your letter in Octane, after the Goodwood event. TR Register should have promoted this widely before the event ! Chris. +1 the first i knew was now here on the forum. I think you will find that the Revival is the largest event in the world, what an opportunity for global exposure . Why oh why do these people keep making these mistakes ? The same as not contacting the NSF re the donated TR7/8 parts. Roy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cvtrian Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 14 hours ago, roy53 said: +1 the first i knew was now here on the forum. I think you will find that the Revival is the largest event in the world, what an opportunity for global exposure . The same as not contacting the NSF re the donated TR7/8 parts. Roy Hi Roy, in the background, Neil Revington did offer the TR7 parts to the SDF well over a year ago. After referring to our marque experts (from the TRDC as well as TR Register) the decision was that the majority of the parts were used items and none of them were particularly rare, and that those that were of interest were already held and available in the SDF orbit if needed. Neil Revington is a great supporter of the SDF and its efforts, indeed was an integral part of the redesign and manufacture of the TR4A/5 front sidelight/indicator repeater units along with getting a batch of OE spec TR6 engine bearings made by the original company (all now sold). His very generous donation to the TR Register ought to be more widely acknowledged, along with the detail of how much money was raised and for what purpose these monies are used. Ian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mick Forey Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 17 hours ago, Chris Glasbey said: TR Register should have promoted this widely before the event ! Chris. Yes, I agree. Having personally advised Paul of the club's decision to provide the prize money back in June, the next I hear of this project is reading this thread. This was clearly a surprise to too many people in the club: a missed opportunity. Mick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
roy53 Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 5 hours ago, cvtrian said: Hi Roy, in the background, Neil Revington did offer the TR7 parts to the SDF well over a year ago. After referring to our marque experts (from the TRDC as well as TR Register) the decision was that the majority of the parts were used items and none of them were particularly rare, and that those that were of interest were already held and available in the SDF orbit if needed. Neil Revington is a great supporter of the SDF and its efforts, indeed was an integral part of the redesign and manufacture of the TR4A/5 front sidelight/indicator repeater units along with getting a batch of OE spec TR6 engine bearings made by the original company (all now sold). His very generous donation to the TR Register ought to be more widely acknowledged, along with the detail of how much money was raised and for what purpose these monies are used. Ian I was responding to Ian C s post re 7/8 spares Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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