pinky Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 I baught a 70s piller drill , I would like to convert it to a floor mounted piller drill, this would mean changing the coloum. The coloum is 2.75 in in diameter Would need to be about 6ft long, chromed, possible an old drill no longer working but still has the couloum, would love to purchase this if you have one Enclose pics, thanks, pink Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 No luck with my suggestion then Paul? Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lebro Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 Nice looking drill. Can't suggest anywhere to get a pole though. If you do find one, you should bolt it down securely to the floor, as it will be rather top heavy. Bob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RAHTR4 Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 Pink, You have a P.M. Regards, Richard Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pinky Posted January 19, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 No luck with the rams- it seems that they repair them Stuart, Your right Bob, it is really heavy, Cheers pink Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PGB BME Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 Pinky Can’t you construct an angle frame support plated on top to take the base of the pillar drill. rather than using a column. You could bolt the frame to the floor and secure back to a wall if needs be. Phil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ian Vincent Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 You can buy stock mild steel tube with an ID of 70mm which is pretty close to 2.75”. Could you just cut the existing pillar near the bottom and weld an extension piece in? Rgds Ian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pinky Posted January 19, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 Hi , Ian,Phil, Have thought of these ideas, and both ideas would work, however there is nothing like the proper thing, I thought of using the existing coloum and conecting a tube to it with a coller and welding it, however would it be strong enough Could you make it straight enough, it's certainly got the old gray matter going Pink Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobH Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 What is the object of the exercise Pink - Is the idea to get more usable depth between the drill bit and the table (in which case the drill table has to be a good fit on the extended column ) or is it just to free up bench space ? Why do you want the column chromed - standard ones are not, they are usually surface ground to size ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stillp Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 I was thinking "why not just buy a length of steel bar", but then I saw the price: https://www.metals4u.co.uk/materials/stainless-steel/stainless-steel-round/1269-p?gclid=Cj0KCQiA8aOeBhCWARIsANRFrQFYiqRgo6kAgEJya_vCPmJWuhWRusoSZlgNNFdos0lLJt3bjAR37tQaAoGjEALw_wcB Pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ian Vincent Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 Steel bar would be very expensive which is why hydraulic rams are re-used. And it would be very heavy. A piece of tube would be more than strong enough. Rgds Ian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ian Vincent Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 2 hours ago, pinky said: Could you make it straight enough, it's certainly got the old gray matter going Pink With a bit of care I would have thought so. Tack it all round before welding it up. And do opposite sides in sequence to avoid distortion. Rgds Ian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WWT338J Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 Is this any help? https://www.bidspotter.co.uk/en-gb/auction-catalogues/sanderson-weatherall/catalogue-id-san10458/lot-a2290f6e-f4d2-4c8d-a5d9-af8800caafbc David Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pinky Posted January 19, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 My garage is very low, 6ft 2ins, this is OK for me as I am a short'e. So the dill is to high to sit on the bench, could lower the bench, but don't really want to do that, it also sticks out further than 60 cm work top, so free standing is the answer The finish, I call it chrome but it is something else, it allows the bed and head to move up and down with ease, as it is a very close fit Probably honed (is that spelt right ) Dyslexic Pink Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lebro Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 4 hours ago, stillp said: I was thinking "why not just buy a length of steel bar", but then I saw the price: https://www.metals4u.co.uk/materials/stainless-steel/stainless-steel-round/1269-p?gclid=Cj0KCQiA8aOeBhCWARIsANRFrQFYiqRgo6kAgEJya_vCPmJWuhWRusoSZlgNNFdos0lLJt3bjAR37tQaAoGjEALw_wcB Pete £500 for 1 meter ! a bit pricey, & very heavy. a tube would be better Bob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stillp Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 My mistake, I'd copied the URL for stainless! Mild steel is a little cheaper: https://www.metals4u.co.uk/materials/mild-steel/mild-steel-round/round-bright/14738-p Still probably too dear though, you could buy a floor-standing pillar drill for less. Pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
barkerwilliams Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 I see lots of drills at auction that have failed a PAT test and sell for little more than scrap value. Isnt thare an auction site near you? Alan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie D Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) Hello Pink, I've got a Fobco Star, the bench mounted version, and it is very solid and "Professional" looking I spotted this on eBay. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266086627634 The pillar is about 2 1/8 inch diameter (not that that is any help to you), but it might be better to sell what you have and buy a complete floor standing drill. (Problem would be getting it across the water to your workshop.) Charlie Edit. Just noticed it's 3 phase... Mine is single, so easy enough to fit a different motor, but more expense. Also just noticed it says "Fractured Drill Bed Collar - as shown in photo". Maybe not the best buy, but it shows that they do crop up." Edited January 19, 2023 by Charlie D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ian Vincent Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 hour ago, barkerwilliams said: I see lots of drills at auction that have failed a PAT test and sell for little more than scrap value. Isnt thare an auction site near you? Alan Quite why would a pillar drill require a Portable Appliance Test? Someone is taking the proverbial. (As in the testing subbie who just pockets the fee). Rgds Ian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pinky Posted January 19, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 I baught the drill on the island it was from a dealer, , it can be a sufferance living hear It cost 70 pound return to cross the water in the winter going up to 120 in the summer I bet you there are loads of coloums kicking around, patience is the secret Pink Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john.r.davies Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) Pink, Consider a lower workbench. Loads of these online, on ebay. https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313&_nkw=+workshop+racking&_sacat=12576&LH_TitleDesc=0&_odkw=Steel+workshop+table&_osacat=12576&_sop=15 The shelves are adjustable for height - see the holes in the uprights - so you could decide how high you want to mount your drill. Any upright above that can be cut off for a clear work space. A good thick plank would be fine for the 'shelf' to support the drill, bolt the stand to the wall with Rawlbolts or similar for stability. Jiohn Edited January 19, 2023 by john.r.davies Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stillp Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 Could you just weld up a stand? Something like this: https://www.axminstertools.com/axminster-trade-stand-for-at152ovs-106070?queryID=4ff1913851ec81d0f99b3b9022f290b5 Pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie D Posted January 20, 2023 Report Share Posted January 20, 2023 16 hours ago, Ian Vincent said: Quite why would a pillar drill require a Portable Appliance Test? I'm not too sure of the regulations, but I have a feeling that if it has a plug on the end of a wire that plugs into a socket then it is considered "Portable", as opposed to a hard wired item I can just about lift my Fabco Star onto the bench. Portable it is not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobH Posted January 20, 2023 Report Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Charlie D said: I'm not too sure of the regulations, The requirement is pretty vague. It merely says that equipment must be kept in a safe condition - there are no detailed regulations as such and there is not even a law saying you must do portable appliance tests, but if you don't it would be difficult to defend yourself in court should someone be hurt, as how else can you demonstrate best practice. The phrase used is "portable and transportable " equipment so big things needing a forklift are still covered if they plug in. Equipment which is permanently wired in is covered by the regulations about installations. Where I worked we had very large transportable thermal chambers which required 63Amp three-phase power, but since they plugged in they were tested. These are the plugs - they are BIG : Edited January 20, 2023 by RobH typo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ian Vincent Posted January 20, 2023 Report Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) If it’s a permanently installed piece of equipment it has to comply with the PUWER requirements and even if a pillar drill has a plug there is no requirement to get it PAT tested. The regulations were introduced to deal with properly portable kit that got a hard life and as an example frequently got picked by the lead. By and large that kind of kit has been superseded by battery powered equipment. Rgds Ian Edited January 20, 2023 by Ian Vincent Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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