Steves_TR6 Posted September 2, 2016 Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 My experience has always been that ear plugs make the whole long distance travelling experience much less tiresome. Tim I agree with earplugs for roof up driving, dont need them for roof down. Steve Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Moltu Posted September 2, 2016 Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 Surely taller tyres are cheaper than new OD or Diff. Just a bit worried about lack of grip! Use GPS for a speedo until recalibration. No, you just need the gear set changing in the o/d and that's about £100. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tim D. Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 Once read an interesting article by Alan de Cadenet. He is now pretty much deaf and was interested to find out how it had happened. So with some acoustics experts he looked at noise levels in the various cars he raced along side some of his open top sports cars. Interestingly the levels of white noise he found in open top sports cars were pretty high (above 100dB). His conclusion was that given that he used to spend a lot of time thrashing across country in these cars compared to the short stints in racing cars that certainly the sports cars were a contributor to his deafness. His parting comment was a suggestion that you should wear ear plugs.. And since then I have where practical.. And it has a number of benefits 1) you do feel a lot less fatigued on long runs 2) you spend less time worrying about that strange noise and more time enjoying the ca 3) you have a pseudo-medical reason for ignoring your passenger generally I only wear them on motorways where the white noise is the worst (interestingly you don't conciously notice it as much as a booming exhaust note but it is no less damaging). I usually use the "bud" type foam plugs but in occasions have worn ear defenders.. Strangely I get lot of "thumbs up" signs when I wear my orange ear defenders. I don't generally wear them for blatts on A and B roads as the White noise is less and I light to hear the exhaust notes. Just my thoughts.. Cheers Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spit_2.5PI Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 +1 for ear plugs on long journeys. As the volume of everything is reduced, you can still hear perfectly what's going on around you. And on a motorway, just crank the radio up to 11. Those toadstool/bluebell-shaped ones are comfortable - and have the best attenuation. Cheers, Richard Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nigel A Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 Only 11 My daughter always cranks the stereo upto 30 on the IWE drives! On my 3rd set of speakers Nigel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
simonjrwinter Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 28% O/D fitted to mine, much more relaxed cruising on M/way, also ALWAYS wear plugs for long motorway blasts. MUCH more relaxing, it also means you enjoy the exhaust note more when you take them out on the slower roads. Spent too long riding m/cycles without earplugs when younger to risk any further hearing loss now. Simon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Moltu Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 The evidence suggests even relatively short exposure to high noise levels is more likely to induce hearing loss than moderate levels of exposure over longer duration. The dB is a logarithmic scale so few more dB is significantly more in terms of the energy acting on your ears. 100dB is pretty high and would be flagged up as way over acceptable exposure levels in the workplace. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
simonjrwinter Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 Good job none of us went to loud concerts in our younger days.......oh wait...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mike3739 Posted September 5, 2016 Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 Can't believe this, ear plugs in a sports car you are drowning out a TRagic amount of the one of the world's best soundtracks Cheers Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ntc Posted September 5, 2016 Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 Can't believe this, ear plugs in a sports car you are drowning out a TRagic amount of the one of the world's best soundtracks Cheers Mike +1 tis what it is all about. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steves_TR6 Posted September 5, 2016 Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 Pardon, what you saying? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
simonjrwinter Posted September 5, 2016 Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 Really? Being deaf? Rather you than me then! Any open top car being driven for long distances on a motorway will damage your hearing. Not the engine noise but the wind roar, but there you go, you can only tell people. Simon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mike3739 Posted September 5, 2016 Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 Steve To me it means sports cars in general terms by their very nature make noise, that's what they are supposed to do by design. The exhaust note of current high performance cars are designed to give that very special sound & invest huge amounts of cash in achieving that signature. TR6's are no exception the soundtrack/ music of the exhaust is part of their magic or am I missing something? If anyone converted a TR6 to full electric power it just would not be anywhere the same? How many miles does the average TR6 driver do in a year, in particular long motorway blasts? If the nanny state said anyone driving a noisy convertible must wear ear plugs to protect their hearing you would be up in arms! Many members have been driving TR's for decades & yet to met a deaf one. Cheers Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Cobbold Posted September 5, 2016 Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 will you all please speak up....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whatmore179 Posted September 5, 2016 Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 Spot on Mike. I've never worn earplugs and haven't a radio fitted my music is the exhaust note Steve Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mike3739 Posted September 5, 2016 Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 will you all please speak up....... Sorry can't hear you Peter Please shout louder Cheers Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Cobbold Posted September 5, 2016 Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 (edited) Sorry can't hear you Peter Please shout louder Cheers Mike .MIke...what you saying ? Agree with you - the exhaust note is pure music.....heel and toeing.... I doubt exhaust or wind has much to do with my hearing loss. I drove the TR daily for ten years and didnt suffer worsening hearing back then. Never had tinnitus after driving the TR. More likely mine is inherited. And also age-related, which is very common. We should be recording TR exhaust songs for play back in the self-driving 'leccy cars of the future. Peter Edited September 5, 2016 by Peter Cobbold Quote Link to post Share on other sites
simonjrwinter Posted September 5, 2016 Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 Come of guys READ THE POST On the MOTORWAY doing a constant speed, the wind noise will drown out your exhaust every time. Nobody is suggesting ear plugs for "normal" driving round lanes etc Has your hearing loss affected your eyesight? Simon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steves_TR6 Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 (edited) Lets have a poll, earplugs or not! ???? Steve Edited September 6, 2016 by SDerbyshire Quote Link to post Share on other sites
simonjrwinter Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 Eh? Speak up Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Kirk Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 Spot on Mike. I've never worn earplugs and haven't a radio fitted my music is the exhaust note Steve +1 Phil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Cobbold Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 (edited) Ear plugs? Maybe its our nose we should plug: https://theconversation.com/how-we-discovered-a-possible-link-between-car-exhausts-and-alzheimers-64779 Peter Edited September 6, 2016 by Peter Cobbold Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tim D. Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Yes. Rather concerning. Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spit_2.5PI Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Different people will be more or less susceptible to hearing loss from a given level of noise. But you don't know until one day your realise something's wrong - look at George Martin! I'm not going to risk it on long motorway journeys so I use earplugs. The plugs don't cut out the sound, they reduce the volume - of everything - equally (not quite true but more or less). I can still hear the engine etc. - the "sound track". I use the same earplugs when going to live music events. Yes, I've listened to Pink Floyd, Genesis, Jethro Tull and many others through earplugs - and still enjoyed the show! My hearing is "suppressed" for a period of time afterwards if I forget them. What you all do with your hearing is your business. Maybe I'm just being over cautious with mine. (It used to be my job years ago) Here endeth the my final lecture on this topic. Cheers, Richard Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Cobbold Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 (edited) Yes. Rather concerning. Tim Tim, I recall a seminar 25 years ago reporting brain plaque injury spreading in from the olfactory bulb and blamed upon an unknown virus. But nanomagnetite could well fit the bill. Indeed there is a corellation with Az: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18334756 And the oxygen radicals provide the injury mechanism. The problem the researchers will now have is finding a control population free from pollutant magnetite particles. Finding positive controls with high levels will be easier. One of the authors avoids kerb-side walking: https://www.newscientist.com/article/2104655-top-tips-to-avoid-getting-metal-pollution-in-your-brain?cmpid=ILC|NSNS|2016-GLOBAL-inlinelink&utm_medium=ILC&utm_source=NSNS&utm_campaign=inlinelink http://europe.newsweek.com/potentially-toxic-magnetic-nanoparticle-pollution-human-brains-495950?rm=eu ".......the effect of particulate pollution on the brains of Mexico City residents. Her research has shown that some residents of the city exposed to high levels of particulates present in the air can have Alzheimer-like changes in the brain, as young as the teenage years." Peter Edited September 7, 2016 by Peter Cobbold Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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