SteveBaker Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 Does anyone know the Wedgewood blue TR4a that’s been in the last two auctions at Mathewsons? I think the car came from Chester area from a guy who also had a 6 and quite a few classic bikes. I’m half interested in it but it’s 4.5hrs from me, it needs to be right to justify the trip. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AJ2014 Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 https://www.mathewsons.co.uk/auction/lot/lot-185---1965-triumph-tr4a/?lot=18353&so=0&st=Triumph&sto=0&au=53&ef=&et=&ic=False&sd=1&pp=48&pn=1&g=1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iain Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 Well it’s not for a purist…. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lo100469 Posted October 27, 2023 Report Share Posted October 27, 2023 and the engine bay is messy. Don't know what that rivetted plate does on brake and clutch master cylinders.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish Posted October 27, 2023 Report Share Posted October 27, 2023 Depending on the price it could be a great entry level tourer TR unless you have a significantly important historical car many of us make changes. how many times do we tell people it’s your car do what you want. looks like I’d have to pay someone to take mine away !!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brenda Posted October 27, 2023 Report Share Posted October 27, 2023 Hi Hamish I’ll give you £10.00 for your TR. Mike Redrose Group Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobG Posted October 27, 2023 Report Share Posted October 27, 2023 Maybe it is a converted LHD from the USA ? Bit of a bodge on the bulkhead where steering column would have been, also first registered in 1987 mentioned. I would ask if there is a Heritage certificate included in the documentation. Also says 2498cc, amazing for a 4 pot or a typo or confused with a TR5. RobG Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted October 27, 2023 Report Share Posted October 27, 2023 It was definitely a USA car, bit grubby and lots of things could be improved but it depends on the price. Quite probably a solid axle car too. (Bonus in my eyes ) Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AJ2014 Posted October 27, 2023 Report Share Posted October 27, 2023 I thought it could be a US LHD conversion too Rob. It also used to be yellow Ade Quote Link to post Share on other sites
roy53 Posted October 27, 2023 Report Share Posted October 27, 2023 if it's been in the last 2 you must have a guide on the not acceptable price. if dry state car then a good basis to work on depending on the price ? Roy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kiwifrog Posted October 27, 2023 Report Share Posted October 27, 2023 I think I would re-run the brake lines before anything else, I prefer my spaghetti on a plate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AJ2014 Posted October 27, 2023 Report Share Posted October 27, 2023 It’s currently on EBay https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266457917081?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=QD970vZ1Sna&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=zwdCaZN1Tl6&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY Quote Link to post Share on other sites
trchris Posted October 27, 2023 Report Share Posted October 27, 2023 That’s a few thousand more than it should be there’s a couple for sale that’s lower in price and look better in the photos than this Chris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted October 28, 2023 Report Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) 15 hours ago, AJ2014 said: It’s currently on EBay https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266457917081?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=QD970vZ1Sna&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=zwdCaZN1Tl6&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY Interesting theyre claiming original green logbook with it and further down the ad not exported. Also that its 2498cc! Stuart. Edited October 28, 2023 by stuart Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lebro Posted October 28, 2023 Report Share Posted October 28, 2023 2.4 ltr must be a mistake. "C" reg (1965) would make it a TR4 surely ? but handbrake is on the tunnel. Bob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted October 28, 2023 Report Share Posted October 28, 2023 43 minutes ago, Lebro said: 2.4 ltr must be a mistake. "C" reg (1965) would make it a TR4 surely ? but handbrake is on the tunnel. Bob No Bob 4a came out in 65, mine is a C reg although obviously an import thats its original build date. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brydon Posted October 28, 2023 Report Share Posted October 28, 2023 Hi The DVLA chassis number indicates a 1967 build IRS RHD Overdrive car, the recorded engine number would suggest it's the original (less than 200 away from the chassis number) and the engine size is stated as 2498. I have no interest in the vehicle or its sale, just using a motor trade look up service to provide the data. hope this helps to clear up the question of import. Kind regards Andrew Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted October 28, 2023 Report Share Posted October 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, brydon said: Hi The DVLA chassis number indicates a 1967 build IRS RHD Overdrive car, the recorded engine number would suggest it's the original (less than 200 away from the chassis number) and the engine size is stated as 2498. I have no interest in the vehicle or its sale, just using a motor trade look up service to provide the data. hope this helps to clear up the question of import. Kind regards Andrew So neither fish nor fowl Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lebro Posted October 28, 2023 Report Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, stuart said: No Bob 4a came out in 65, mine is a C reg although obviously an import thats its original build date. Stuart. OK, I'm wondering about my Dove then, GPH359C first registered Feb 1965. It had side repeaters on front wings, & a wooden dash, but solid rear axle. I assume TR4 type chassis. click on to enlarge Maybe by then they were mixing & matching parts from both ? Bob Edited October 28, 2023 by Lebro Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted October 28, 2023 Report Share Posted October 28, 2023 10 minutes ago, Lebro said: OK, I'm wondering about my Dove then, GPH359C first registered Feb 1965. It had side repeaters on front wings, & a wooden dash, but solid rear axle. I assume TR4 type chassis. click on to enlarge Maybe by then they were mixing & matching parts from both ? Bob There was 303 TR4s produced early 65 before they started making the 4a Your Dove was definitely built on a TR4 but I suspect someone before you got it added the repeater lights and chrome strip from a 4a Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lebro Posted October 28, 2023 Report Share Posted October 28, 2023 Yep, that's what I always thought, & added the wood dash. I suspect the front wings were replacements judging by the state of the inner wings, which I had to replace ! Bob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted October 28, 2023 Report Share Posted October 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, Lebro said: Yep, that's what I always thought, & added the wood dash. I suspect the front wings were replacements judging by the state of the inner wings, which I had to replace ! Bob They were more than likely from a 4a complete in that case as new wings for 4/4a/5 have always come un-pierced Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lebro Posted October 28, 2023 Report Share Posted October 28, 2023 Ah well all in the past now, as far as I know that car is deceased (an EX Dove) bereft of life ---- etc ! Bob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted October 28, 2023 Report Share Posted October 28, 2023 12 minutes ago, Lebro said: Ah well all in the past now, as far as I know that car is deceased (an EX Dove) bereft of life ---- etc ! Bob Thats a shame as theres not that many about. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SteveBaker Posted October 28, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2023 It sold first time around for £16,500 plus commission although no one turned up to pay so it was re-entered. Second time I believe it failed to sell, the owner now has it listed on ebay and I’d guess £18k would win it. I’m not sure it’s for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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