Hamish Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 Just seen this one come up https://www.carandclassic.com/auctions/1968-triumph-tr5-pi-4XdB24?bsft_aaid=a5ce63ed-6419-48b8-adb6-8692f74daf04&bsft_eid=340091a9-a172-6a79-3bbd-4b5d8eba6a28&bsft_pid=169f0276-1d2b-4b03-b1ac-0d15585e4f25&utm_campaign=targeted-uk-10k-automated-auctions-15-05-23&utm_source=blueshift&utm_medium=email&utm_content=targeted-automated-uk-10k-auction-email-15-05-23&bsft_clkid=fcf9b614-11c9-4933-baaf-9149eefb765c&bsft_uid=5f87320c-02b9-4bb0-9c25-6d1203ae824d&bsft_mid=937e8fb4-bbb5-4c8d-b3d9-1bf553bdcefe&bsft_pp=10&bsft_mime_type=html&bsft_ek=2023-07-05T08%3A01%3A24Z&bsft_lx=23&bsft_tv=32&bsft_bk=block2#&gid=1&pid=1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 Well that interior is very......................BLUE! Not the nicest Ive seen. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Harbottle Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 13 minutes ago, stuart said: Well that interior is very......................BLUE! Not the nicest Ive seen. Stuart. Its a personal preference obviously but would have to agree, not my cup of tea but looks like it has been done neatly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
trchris Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 Gosh!! Too blue spoils it really Chris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gary F Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 I like the neat touch with the Cooling Fan for the Fuel Pump, I wonder if it works? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 10 minutes ago, Gary F said: I like the neat touch with the Cooling Fan for the Fuel Pump, I wonder if it works? Doubt it.Only going to draw air in from the boot. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TRTOM2498PI Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 27 minutes ago, Gary F said: I like the neat touch with the Cooling Fan for the Fuel Pump, I wonder if it works? I think sometime folk over complicate things ? Stick a modern Bosch pump in there, and you'll be good for years, & in all climates, with reliability. Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
elclem1 Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 Very BLUE! even the spark plug leads - blue. but a nice example if you like Blue. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gary F Posted July 6, 2023 Report Share Posted July 6, 2023 19 hours ago, stuart said: Doubt it.Only going to draw air in from the boot. Stuart. Yes, I suppose the best way if your using the original Lucas Pump is to duct cold air in from outside somehow, with the help of a cooling fan to assist air flow maybe. Opinions vary on the Cooling coils which use the Return Fuel from the Metering unit to cool the pump. I fitted an heat sink to my Lucas pump designed for a Cycle Trainer, I don't really know if it helped, the pump still got very hot in the summer even with this fitted! I was also considering using a Diesel Fuel cooler fitted in the return from the Metering unit but never got around to doing this modification I suppose fitting the Bosch Pump solves the overheating issues. Gary Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted July 6, 2023 Report Share Posted July 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Gary F said: Yes, I suppose the best way if your using the original Lucas Pump is to duct cold air in from outside somehow, with the help of a cooling fan to assist air flow maybe. Opinions vary on the Cooling coils which use the Return Fuel from the Metering unit to cool the pump. I fitted an heat sink to my Lucas pump designed for a Cycle Trainer, I don't really know if it helped, the pump still got very hot in the summer even with this fitted! I was also considering using a Diesel Fuel cooler fitted in the return from the Metering unit but never got around to doing this modification I suppose fitting the Bosch Pump solves the overheating issues. Gary I fitted a coil to an original Lucas pump on a 5 local to me and that works well on that one. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OldBob Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 On 7/5/2023 at 3:19 PM, TRTOM2498PI said: I think sometime folk over complicate things ? Stick a modern Bosch pump in there, and you'll be good for years, & in all climates, with reliability. Cheers. 35C abroad and my 'Bosch type' pump was struggling, 2 episodes of fuel starvation stuck at the side of the road for an hour waiting for friends to bring me some cold fuel. On a previous trip with a Lucas pump fitted with a cooling coil it gave me no problems.... There's a lot of factors that come into play with this subject. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TRTOM2498PI Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 14 minutes ago, OldBob said: 35C abroad and my 'Bosch type' pump was struggling, 2 episodes of fuel starvation stuck at the side of the road for an hour waiting for friends to bring me some cold fuel. On a previous trip with a Lucas pump fitted with a cooling coil it gave me no problems.... There's a lot of factors that come into play with this subject. I concur, but generally speaking, for every 10 people who say they have no issues with a Lucas pump, there are 20 people who have ditched Lucas for Bosch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 1 hour ago, TRTOM2498PI said: I concur, but generally speaking, for every 10 people who say they have no issues with a Lucas pump, there are 20 people who have ditched Lucas for Bosch. Mostly because "So an so said it was an essential upgrade" Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TRTOM2498PI Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 1 minute ago, stuart said: Mostly because "So an so said it was an essential upgrade" Stuart. Or had issues. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waldi Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 From a heat-dissipation perspective (read: the rate at which the fuel in the tank warms up), the original Lucas pump is preferred, it draws less current than any Bosch pump suitable for this service conditions (pressure and flow rate). Waldi And FWIW: I run a Bosch pump. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Bracher Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 I like the way it is described as a "very blue specification"........!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Moltu Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 10 hours ago, TRTOM2498PI said: Or had issues. And a Bosch pump or Sytec equivalent is a lot cheaper than a rebuilt Lucas unit when the time comes to replace it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OldBob Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 11 hours ago, TRTOM2498PI said: I concur, but generally speaking, for every 10 people who say they have no issues with a Lucas pump, there are 20 people who have ditched Lucas for Bosch. Back when genuine 996 Bosch pumps were available new I'd probably be doing the same Tom. Some of the compatibles and 'bosch type' pumps being offered now are certainly not as good - whether they are any improvement over a good Lucas set-up is the question. Bob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Moltu Posted July 11, 2023 Report Share Posted July 11, 2023 On 7/10/2023 at 12:05 PM, TRTOM2498PI said: Or had issues. And a Bosch pump or Sytec equivalent is a lot cheaper than a rebuilt Lucas unit when the time comes to replace it. AFIK the Sytec equivalent is still available. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TRTOM2498PI Posted July 12, 2023 Report Share Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) 15 hours ago, Andy Moltu said: And a Bosch pump or Sytec equivalent is a lot cheaper than a rebuilt Lucas unit when the time comes to replace it. AFIK the Sytec equivalent is still available. Agreed. The other thing here is, is if you're a stickler for originality, or want to continue using a Lucas pump (which is fine), is trying to find someone that is any good at rebuilding one, who knows what they are doing, regardless of how simple they may be ? Edited July 12, 2023 by TRTOM2498PI Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rvwp Posted July 14, 2023 Report Share Posted July 14, 2023 Only reached £37k and there have been no offers. Would have thought it was worth more than that although the crash pads need replacing with original black vinyl to make it less blue? Another TR5, also in very good condition sold recently on the same auction site after not reaching its reserve but sold for £40K after seeking offers. Sign of the times? Rich Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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