John L Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 Parking spaces free?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 Don't worry. They will tax them when the time comes Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OldBob Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 7 hours ago, RogerH said: Don't worry. They will tax them when the time comes Roger That would really give someone the 'ump! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Morrison Posted June 23, 2023 Report Share Posted June 23, 2023 They call old cars smelly polluting things, they want to get close to a Camel! John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SuzanneH Posted June 23, 2023 Report Share Posted June 23, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, John Morrison said: They call old cars smelly polluting things, they want to get close to a Camel! John Especially in the desert in Oman where they lay dead and rotting by the side of the road having been hit by large transporters. Muscat to Salalah across the desert by taxi. Edited June 23, 2023 by SuzanneH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter V W Posted June 23, 2023 Report Share Posted June 23, 2023 ULEZ. Park and Ride. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John L Posted June 23, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2023 Shouldnt that be ride and park! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted June 23, 2023 Report Share Posted June 23, 2023 Hi Folks I was in Dubai in the late 80's, before people were going crazy about the environ, and the hotel blurb about Dubai stated that the had at least 150 years supply of oil under their sand. 30 or so years later they should have 120 years left. And that is just one little spot in the sand. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish Posted June 23, 2023 Report Share Posted June 23, 2023 But hasn’t the population nearly doubled and the use per person has too. so couple year left. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted June 23, 2023 Report Share Posted June 23, 2023 Hi Hamish, it would be interesting to know how many of our 7 Billion planet dwellers have some sort of automobil. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Fremont Posted June 23, 2023 Report Share Posted June 23, 2023 (edited) Run out? Not going to happen according to the abiotic oil camp, who contend ( with an impressive argument ) that petroleum is produced in the Earth's mantle at a depth of 60 miles through a continuous reaction of iron oxide, calcium carbonate and water. Link to an article: https://principia-scientific.com/oil-is-not-a-fossil-fuel-and-agw-is-non-science/ Nice notion for motorheads, eh? Edited June 23, 2023 by Tom Fremont Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Cobbold Posted June 23, 2023 Report Share Posted June 23, 2023 Tom, I dont buy that. There are microfossils in oil that are useful to the industry for deciding where to drill. eg https://geoexpro.com/the-predictive-power-of-palynology/ Abiotic processes of formation would not correlate with those pollen grains etc. Peter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dic Doretti Posted June 23, 2023 Report Share Posted June 23, 2023 Foraminifera. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Fremont Posted June 23, 2023 Report Share Posted June 23, 2023 Hi Peter, The article is pretty detailed and the links go much further. In one of them it says the petroleum molecule requires the kind of heat ( 1500C ) and pressure ( 750,000 psi ) present at 60 miles below the surface. If they're right, it's far below any plant life ever, so throws the ball back to the " fossil " camp to explain their theory. The claim that the American scientist in Houston built a reactor capable of those conditions and produced petroleum with those ingredients alone is impressive - to me anyway. Cheers, Tom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ian Vincent Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 It has been my understanding for some time now that if we burn all the known reserves of oil the planet will die of CO2 poisoning. In other words for all practical purposes we will never run out of oil. Rgds Ian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stillp Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 14 hours ago, Tom Fremont said: The claim that the American scientist in Houston built a reactor capable of those conditions and produced petroleum with those ingredients alone is impressive He's produced a synthetic petroleum. That doesn't prove that that's how the oilfields were formed. Pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Cobbold Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 Calcium carbonate rock (chalk,limestone, marble) is the product of once-live organisms. So any reactions using it cannot be said to be abiotic. Peter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 Clearly created by old rotting fish. Cod liver oil is a clue. And it would be an Autoclave not a reactor Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Cobbold Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 10 hours ago, Ian Vincent said: It has been my understanding for some time now that if we burn all the known reserves of oil the planet will die of CO2 poisoning. In other words for all practical purposes we will never run out of oil. Rgds Ian Yes ! The oil will run out of us............ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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