lee Posted March 27, 2023 Report Share Posted March 27, 2023 Never easy Sent my gearbox off for a rebuild and didn’t get the drive take-off back. So looking to get another and have realised why it went walkabout. Can someone tell me which one of these I need? pic of gearbox also Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lee Posted March 27, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2023 Actually I think it must be the bottom one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dblenk Posted March 27, 2023 Report Share Posted March 27, 2023 (edited) i just fitted the moss one today think it was £35 if its not good its cheap enough to replace david Edited March 27, 2023 by dblenk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lee Posted March 27, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2023 Yes I think I’ll find a cheap one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harlequin Posted March 27, 2023 Report Share Posted March 27, 2023 I have just fitted one supplied by TR Shop. It was about £60. Evidently they have had trouble in the past with poor quality, so now strip them down and check them and then repack with grease. George Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted March 27, 2023 Report Share Posted March 27, 2023 For us the VeeThree product is still working after 25 years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyC Posted March 28, 2023 Report Share Posted March 28, 2023 I seem to replace these regularly. I get maybe 8000 miles from each one and I’ve been careful to ensure the copper washer is fitted to prevent loading the mechanism when tightening. There are ‘improved’ versions (ex TRGB / TR Enterprises) which are reported to be bulletproof but I have no experience, although I may bite the bucket now as the latest one has just failed. An observation is that these aftermarket assemblies have a machine screw in place of a grease nipple, and just wondering if the lack of lubrication - yes I forget at service, is a factor. However and here is the question - I’m sure I have read somewhere that on gearboxes with J type OD the speedometer cable can be connected directly to the drive take off without the angle drive fitted. Can anyone confirm this? TonyC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobH Posted March 28, 2023 Report Share Posted March 28, 2023 The cheap right angle drives have been a long saga of dodgy parts. This old thread from Alan T explains much though the pictures no longer seem to display automatically. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harlequin Posted March 28, 2023 Report Share Posted March 28, 2023 It was the flexible drive that died on mine, plus the blanking plate had gone missing. I found a replacement blanking plate, the little knock out plates in a galvanised domestic electrical wall box are a perfect interference fit. But the flexible cable drive was a problem so I bought a replacement unit. The TR Shop ones have circlips holding the plates in place, which gave me more confidence then the Moss offering George Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matt george Posted March 28, 2023 Report Share Posted March 28, 2023 I fitted the expensive version from TRGB about three years ago after a spate of broken angle drives. No problems since. Matt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted March 28, 2023 Report Share Posted March 28, 2023 I fit these,also supplied by others but buy direct theyre cheaper https://www.speedograph-richfield.com/shop/angle-drives/rgb-2401-series Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Drewmotty Posted March 28, 2023 Report Share Posted March 28, 2023 (edited) Its a long time since I owned a TR4a which had a similar right angle drive but could a TR4 speedo cable be fitted direct with just a small modification to the tunnel? Ive also seen the cable run direct inside the cockpit under the carpet along the floor of TR rally cars to keep it out of the way. Edited March 28, 2023 by Drewmotty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andyb633 Posted March 28, 2023 Report Share Posted March 28, 2023 go for the speedograph richfield ,it may be expensive but it is going to last ,fitted my one a few years ago and no problems Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PodOne Posted March 28, 2023 Report Share Posted March 28, 2023 7 hours ago, stuart said: I fit these,also supplied by others but buy direct theyre cheaper https://www.speedograph-richfield.com/shop/angle-drives/rgb-2401-series Stuart. +1 for Stuarts suggestion. I fitted a cheapo from the usual suspects and before it spun a wheel the blanking plug fell out. Another one from a different supplier looked to come from the same supplier so I bit the bullet and had one made, not cheap to me as one off but a group buy might reduce the cost? Night and day when you compare them side by side for quality. Copper washer that's a separate argument! Andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lee Posted March 31, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2023 Thanks guys. move asked for a price and how to order the Speedograph jobbie. No price on that item for some reason. lee Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TRTOM2498PI Posted March 31, 2023 Report Share Posted March 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, lee said: Thanks guys. move asked for a price and how to order the Speedograph jobbie. No price on that item for some reason. lee I was about to say, Speedograph is your place, for an excellent quality one, otherwise, you will be replacing with regularity. Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted March 31, 2023 Report Share Posted March 31, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, lee said: Thanks guys. move asked for a price and how to order the Speedograph jobbie. No price on that item for some reason. lee £95.00 + VAT Type BG 2401 You select your car from the drop brown list I guess to make an order. https://www.speedograph-richfield.com/shop/angle-drives/rgb-2401-series Edited March 31, 2023 by BlueTR3A-5EKT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted March 31, 2023 Report Share Posted March 31, 2023 I just rung them up and ordered over the phone, worked a treat and it was with me a couple of days later. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lee Posted March 31, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2023 Ok thx. they didn’t respond to my email I can’t seem to get anything from the drop-down Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted April 1, 2023 Report Share Posted April 1, 2023 17 hours ago, lee said: Ok thx. they didn’t respond to my email I can’t seem to get anything from the drop-down Like I said above just ring them up and order Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
astontr6 Posted April 7, 2023 Report Share Posted April 7, 2023 On 3/28/2023 at 10:19 AM, TonyC said: I seem to replace these regularly. I get maybe 8000 miles from each one and I’ve been careful to ensure the copper washer is fitted to prevent loading the mechanism when tightening. There are ‘improved’ versions (ex TRGB / TR Enterprises) which are reported to be bulletproof but I have no experience, although I may bite the bucket now as the latest one has just failed. An observation is that these aftermarket assemblies have a machine screw in place of a grease nipple, and just wondering if the lack of lubrication - yes I forget at service, is a factor. However and here is the question - I’m sure I have read somewhere that on gearboxes with J type OD the speedometer cable can be connected directly to the drive take off without the angle drive fitted. Can anyone confirm this? TonyC Tony, the copper washer is only for BMC cars and therefore not Triumph??? Bruce. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyC Posted April 12, 2023 Report Share Posted April 12, 2023 Good to know Bruce, thank you. I had thought that the theory was that without the washer, the drive mechanism could be ‘compressed’ when tightened and resultant interference fit caused premature failure. It’ s all to do again and on my long list so will do some dimensional checks before fitting anything new. TonyC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lee Posted April 12, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2023 7 hours ago, TonyC said: Good to know Bruce, thank you. I had thought that the theory was that without the washer, the drive mechanism could be ‘compressed’ when tightened and resultant interference fit caused premature failure. It’ s all to do again and on my long list so will do some dimensional checks before fitting anything new. TonyC WARNING message on the cheaper Rimmers one I just got strictly says to not miss the copper washer out as it causes too much load and will fail Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PodOne Posted April 12, 2023 Report Share Posted April 12, 2023 1 hour ago, lee said: WARNING message on the cheaper Rimmers one I just got strictly says to not miss the copper washer out as it causes too much load and will fail Best "glue" the blanking plug in first Lee before retiring it to the bin. Washer or not to washer let the show begin! Pole No washer +1 Washer Andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted April 13, 2023 Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 16 hours ago, PodOne said: Best "glue" the blanking plug in first Lee before retiring it to the bin. Washer or not to washer let the show begin! Pole No washer +1 Washer Andy Not Rimmers Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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