stuart Posted December 26, 2021 Report Share Posted December 26, 2021 4 hours ago, Teher said: It gives off enough heat for the interior to be a cozy cocoon only disturbed by an ugly draft from the junction of the side-screen with the windshield ... last week… Correctly fitted the sidescreen front waste edge lip should slot into the channel in the rear of the stanchion thus preventing it from ballooning out at speed , at the front lower edge where it meets the scuttle I fit a strip of expanding foam that fills the space nicely, with all this done its quite cosy in there and there are a lot less draughts. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lebro Posted December 26, 2021 Report Share Posted December 26, 2021 Agree, my main draught is from the rear lower part of the sidescreen, I usually just stuff a towel or similar down there ! Bob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kiwifrog Posted December 26, 2021 Report Share Posted December 26, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lebro said: Agree, my main draught is from the rear lower part of the sidescreen, I usually just stuff a towel or similar down there ! Bob Think yourself lucky Bob, I am too fat to drive my car with sidescreens, I just dont fit I have to drive with my arm and elbow close to being outside the car. But at least I can take left hand corners a bit faster Edited December 26, 2021 by Kiwifrog humor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted December 26, 2021 Report Share Posted December 26, 2021 Just bought this on. Black Friday discount for £120 delivered. Certainly blows more than my original Smiths unit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted December 26, 2021 Report Share Posted December 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, BlueTR3A-5EKT said: Just bought this on. Black Friday discount for £120 delivered. Certainly blows more than my original Smiths unit. Slightly different to the ones I normally buy but should still fit, good price as theyre this now https://www.t7design.co.uk/3-5kw-lightweight-heater-with-side-vents-12v-187-d1e-05a.html Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted December 26, 2021 Report Share Posted December 26, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, stuart said: Slightly different to the ones I normally buy but should still fit, good price as theyre this now https://www.t7design.co.uk/3-5kw-lightweight-heater-with-side-vents-12v-187-d1e-05a.html Stuart. Would you consider it to be warmer/more effective than the standard Smiths unit Stuart? I expect to sit the thing on two cross bars placed on the dash support rails. Sat on the flat plate. Being certain the water connect tubes are uppermost to prevent air locks. The standard rheostat switch seems to work as a switch but does not really slow the fan speed. I would need guidance on that. I had wondered about this PWN Unit. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224723660731?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D235872%26meid%3D9ff5de94ab66423eae5cb04dc80471ee%26pid%3D101195%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D393385175137%26itm%3D224723660731%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DSimplAMLv9PairwiseWebMskuAspectsV202110NoVariantSeedWithPLXV2Ranker%26brand%3DUnbranded&_trksid=p2047675.c101195.m1851&amdata=cksum%3A2247236607319ff5de94ab66423eae5cb04dc80471ee|enc%3AAQAGAAACIBCyHc0SSi7uHsubVzaE22UaVpY2q0%2BCM9t3AI5lqyGWyZUyIg%2Blmp%2FIIem0AKpiWVsMrY5o2Dpu7DY7Eptk4Tww61k0oLjduTBM5f1%2B7gbaxbwJIV9g90Uqw49AckKks66Y5SNgwXv9J5kFPyJ5LGiTsDt2KIlOOYSIxMoTxx5gycyzKL%2BHzlCT5KnBjDHOVzNH%2BOzDYR5JPXPhIQnbjAD855Jz9wn36y91lcMdo9ptTEhiuuR%2B32U2clVbfgTtUU5e7nbSZwm%2FUC5OSMIZDXHUkpDDJovWBCwWvXoLtIlIsXD21b5FlwMTrNKrOOCxNzty3NLU%2BoREzL%2F5LlkZ3%2BDlgUSIJM72yxmNwEcWrr3HM0QDEVTxJmiXO9%2Bcucb8SdUdXPzoWUpsKn32qDETEbAn%2BFFhgrcOqOOc9glktjSQwKDYizqtHidG%2FHh%2F%2FbvrVtjpM0Q2QBdaMIDCm6cePQQYs7Z7%2BOPjniEBV1npXFxIbCDV5MPYEsvbIxAYOO3u9svvwmANWEM3dJsn3DAZk5qxWNgvaBdio%2FeNG0m1VAPv7I41fWW%2Bj0wXwTxKOtr7uSfiCSsqSMA4r4CS9PXweUyk0XkclG9dFoax9zVMpgRGVq3qKN7o5Tz3tbhkbYTgAede7FJOEfWBr4mI13yeuwAJspx%2BbF4EZ51bDzyda52jhu00aEi5AEzlzlAduGwgh%2FgAHbS0HKKCYDlRqOTd7qY%3D|ampid%3APL_CLK|clp%3A2047675 Or this. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/393385175137 My unit arrived from T7 looking like the one on the picture on T7 link you supplied. I have moved the fan unit to outside the plenum to allow the directional closing vents to swivel fully. Height wise it is still shorter than a Smiths round thing. I can always reassemble with the fan unit inside the plenum box and suffer reduced directional airflow into the footwells. image of my spare heater against the T7 Edited December 26, 2021 by BlueTR3A-5EKT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Drewmotty Posted December 26, 2021 Report Share Posted December 26, 2021 (edited) I mounted mine vertically with the inlet/rad facing the bulkhead and scuttle vent and the water connections uppermost. That leaves the demist connectors uppermost and the louvred vents hanging between the dash supports where they can be easily reached from the drivers and passenger seats. A length of angle iron bolted between the stays and onto the flat plate on the heater makes a solid mounting bracket. There’s a pic and a write up here: https://www.tr-register.co.uk/group/devon/social-report/2020/04/1694/In-the-Garage-April-20 Edited December 26, 2021 by Drewmotty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted December 27, 2021 Report Share Posted December 27, 2021 On 12/26/2021 at 9:10 PM, Drewmotty said: I mounted mine vertically with the inlet/rad facing the bulkhead and scuttle vent and the water connections uppermost. That leaves the demist connectors uppermost and the louvred vents hanging between the dash supports where they can be easily reached from the drivers and passenger seats. A length of angle iron bolted between the stays and onto the flat plate on the heater makes a solid mounting bracket. There’s a pic and a write up here: https://www.tr-register.co.uk/group/devon/social-report/2020/04/1694/In-the-Garage-April-20 Thank you for that link. Peter W Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 On 12/27/2021 at 10:50 PM, BlueTR3A-5EKT said: Thank you for that link. Peter W Personally I prefer the way we fit them which is like this so the rad being uppermost means air from the vent flap can be drawn through it. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 Thank you Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Teher Posted December 31, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 Wiring of rear light done! Obviously with Jean-Louis at the maneuver and me as a zealous assistant ... He also took the opportunity to review the fixation of 123, which my now ex-mechanic had not seen fit to ensure correct fixation… I entered through a fog as dense as an Xmas pudding and when I got there, the reversing into the passage to the garage was done by the comforting glow of a long range spotlight! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PGB BME Posted January 2, 2022 Report Share Posted January 2, 2022 Was the rear spotlight an original feature of Tr2/3’s and are they legal for mot? Phil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted January 2, 2022 Report Share Posted January 2, 2022 29 minutes ago, PGB BME said: Was the rear spotlight an original feature of Tr2/3’s and are they legal for mot? Phil No and yes. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lebro Posted January 2, 2022 Report Share Posted January 2, 2022 Extract from the Vehicle lighting regulations 1986 (current) 8. Wattage– (a) A reversing lamp bearing an approval mark: No requirement (b) A reversing lamp not bearing an approval mark: The total wattage of any one reversing lamp shall not exceed 24 watts Bob. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PGB BME Posted January 2, 2022 Report Share Posted January 2, 2022 Thanks Bob & Stuart Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ian Vincent Posted January 2, 2022 Report Share Posted January 2, 2022 7 hours ago, Lebro said: The total wattage of any one reversing lamp shall not exceed 24 watts So what happens if you put an LED bulb in it? Rgds Ian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lebro Posted January 3, 2022 Report Share Posted January 3, 2022 No problem, because it will draw a fair bit less than 24W. Just be careful where you use it ! Bob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ian Vincent Posted January 3, 2022 Report Share Posted January 3, 2022 24 minutes ago, Lebro said: No problem, because it will draw a fair bit less than 24W. Exactly my point Bob. The regulations need to be updated to include a limit on lumens or whatever it is to measure light output. Rgds Ian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Teher Posted January 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 No MOT here, in France… And as a pre-1960 vehicle, my venerable automobile is exempt from any checks ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ianc Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 How does the French Government prevent unroadworthy vehicles being driven around the country ? Is this one of the reasons that the accident rate in France is higher than that of the UK ? Ian Cornish Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Teher said: No MOT here, in France… And as a pre-1960 vehicle, my venerable automobile is exempt from any checks ! Same as here now. Except the exemption from testing is a rolling year so even 1970/80’s rot boxes are exempt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james christie Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 16 minutes ago, ianc said: How does the French Government prevent unroadworthy vehicles being driven around the country ? The real answer is that it doesn’t and even encourages it! But nothing stops the owner asking for a test. We have had here for many years two different Log Books ( Carte Grise) for cars over a certain age - 25 years I think. The Carte Grise de Collection authorises the avoidance of the ‘Contrôle Technique’ and imposes one or two restrictions on usage. Originally the vehicule could only be driven in the local Département and its neighbouring ones. The official Log Book is as for every car. My 3A has its original CG and I will have nothing to do with the absurdity of the CG de collection. There is some doubt here locally whether a car with the original carte grise can avoid the MOT/Contrôle Technique. At any rate, it is beyond my understanding how anybody should want to avoid a trained techician having a good look every two years for all of 75€. Incidentally the MOT centres are totally independent franchises and have nothing to do with garages and repairs. As to Ian’s observation of the accident rate, I would look elsewhere for the reasons. It is rarely the car’s fault……. Happy New Year to all james Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Teher Posted January 6, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 There is a complete technical control in France for all cars, to be done every two years. However, for cars over thirty years old which have a “collection” traffic title, this technical control is increased to five years because it is considered that these cars run little. For cars endowed with a "collection" circulation title and which were manufactured before 1960, there is no longer any mandatory technical control because their owners are considered to be passionate collectors and very attentive to their vehicle and therefore, it would be superfluous ... Regarding road mortality, I doubt that this is the result of poor maintenance of old vehicles! I would rather lean for a general behavior of French motorists and more precisely that of a certain category of the population, rather young and not necessarily French for several generations who happily frees themselves from the rules ... It is only to circulate a little on our road network to quickly notice ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Teher Posted January 8, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2022 Last achievement strongly reflecting the amateur craftsmanship but, all the same, very practical… My co-pilot and I often ride with helmets for obvious aesthetic reasons… and also and above all because, except to have the two side-screens in place, the TR2 and 3 are a festival of drafts… Nevertheless, there are times when the helmets are at rest and I then install them on the small seats that my older children now refuse to use on the false pretext that they cannot fit their seat and their long legs in a space of 1000 cm ! As I wish to avoid the Bolide the humiliation too often reserved for TRs by their aging owners, which consists in adopting a driving rhythm that by the nuance that characterizes me, I would qualify as "phlegmatic", in other words, devoid of any sportiness, I force myself to adopt a rhythm that is to say the least sustained and inevitably, my two beautiful helmets begin to dance the jig until they settle down in a very inconsistent way and at the risk of being irreparably damaged, between the seats mounting brackets and the tunnel… Today's rally pilots use nets to store their helmets and I guess in the old days the technique to prevent them from wandering dangerously around the cockpit and having them on hand at all times must have been the same as it is today. ... Anyway, I imagined that it had to be so and undertook a highly "crappy" but very practical realisation ! Tried with an Ikéa provision net, the first realization turned out to be rather disappointing and quite frankly pathetically grotesque ... Also, I had to find a more "authentic" net… I then had the idea of using the helmet nets used by the military to slip camouflage bands or branches into them. A thin branch of reed to keep them on the back wall and some old military leather to hang everything from the hood poles and voila ! I don’t know if it ever happened, but it’s very practical and looking old enough not to swear in the Bolide’s cabin! Well, I promise, I'll stop decorating ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ian Vincent Posted January 8, 2022 Report Share Posted January 8, 2022 Teher, you are clearly a man with too much time on his hands. very smart though. Rgds Ian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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