Lee Dutton Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 Going to replace the front wheel bearings on my 4a, suggestions for best bearing supplier, best grease to use please. Many thanks in advance Lee Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harlequin Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 Hi Lee I have just changed the front wheel bearings on my TR6 with NTN bearings, I got them from BRT in Wisbeach. I placed the order by phone at about midday and they were on my doorstep early the next day. George Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 Moss show NTN bearings at apprx £14. Doesn't sound like a lot of wonga.. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tr4aJim Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 How does NTN compare with Timken? Jim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 They are top notch. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tr4aJim Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 Hmm, interesting. The Moss U.K. site shows bearings stamped NTN, however Moss US site shows them stamped KOR. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 (edited) Hi Jim, unless Google shows they are good quality I would steer clear of them. Do a Google search http://www.theminiforum.co.uk/forums/topic/265139-wheel-bearings-to-avoid/ Roger Edited February 1, 2020 by RogerH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foster461 Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 Moss US and Moss UK dont always sell the same products, dont even use the same part numbers. TRF still sells Timken brand wheel bearings. Stan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Morrison Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 Timken brand still avalable, think I have some, I'll get you a number tomorrow, and you can check bearing suppliers, Don't be surprised at the price, they are expensive in comparison to what you are looking at now. John. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tr4aJim Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 John, thanks but as Stan says, I can get Timken at TRF. Jim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 Timken actually do the bearings under their Triunph TR6 listing. So you shouldn't even need a part number. They were one of the original suppliers and so list their bearings accordingly. The TR6 and TR4A are the same. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lee Dutton Posted February 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 TRGB are doing a kit of front wheel bearing, inner, outer felt seal and split pin for £8.75 ?? Anyone know where they come from? Regards Lee Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Hubball Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 Hi Lee Do not think about it at that price most likely made in a mud hut in Bongo Bongo Land Cheers Chris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rogerguzzi Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 Hello All I would not even consider cheap ones unless stuck in the middle of nowhere and desperate especially on a TR6 as they are the same size as my 1500 Spitfire but you have a much heavier engine and maybe wide(sticky)tyres! Unless of course you only do the odd 100 miles a year!!!!!!!!!!!! still a gamble So I would guess the loads are much higher? Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lee Dutton Posted February 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 If they sell these then I presume they would fit them to customers vehicles?? I have a BRT depot up the road from me will contact them tomorrow cheers Lee Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harlequin Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 3 hours ago, Lee Dutton said: TRGB are doing a kit of front wheel bearing, inner, outer felt seal and split pin for £8.75 ?? Anyone know where they come from? Regards Lee Lee I tried these bearings and would not recommend them. They lasted less than 5,000 miles George Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AndyR100 Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 I had an unknown (but reasonably-priced) set on my Stag a while ago, lasted about 1000 miles before self-destructing .... they were replaced with NTN and were perfect for the next 10,000 miles before the car went. To its new custodian. i wouldn’t hesitate in using then again and have a set sitting on the shelf waiting for my 4. ...... Andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tr graham Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 everybody original Timkin bearings are still out there price is around £60 pair i have several pairs and can bring to spares day at the weekend if any body wants them , or you can get them from some specialist bearing suppliers , will post numbers later. graham Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 As Graham states - Timken bearings are out there - just look at the web Typically £70/pair. Rimmers are doing Timken for £15 each - less than 1/2 price/bearing. Makes you wonder. But then !!!! nearly all bearings are made in various grades to suit the job/purse. Are we over spec'ing the requirements for the bearings. In the absence of factual info I think we need to over spec. The other way is if you do use the cheaper bearings and are happy to carry a spare set (as you should) and are happy to replace annually or thereabouts then go for cheap. But do not complain that they wear out quickly. You may be lucky and they could last many miles. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 (edited) As a follow up. I have Timken (03062) (outer bearing) fitted to my hub - hurray. In my boot spares box I have a Powetune set (03162 outer bearing) - does anybody know anything about Powetune. There is a lot of traffic on the web suggesting they are cheapo rubbish. On Ebay the above Timken bearing goes for anything between £29 and £59 - that is a mighty difference, On another web site somebody is looking for a taper bearing for their lathe. The poster refers to the correct bearing being $1000+. The same bearing on a Chevy is £10. Same number, same size different price. One answer was simply - the same bearings, off the same machine but time taken to measure them into quality sets. - best quality = £1000, lowest quality = $10. So what should out bearing quality be?????? Roger Edited February 3, 2020 by RogerH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John L Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 This is the inner bearing of a new rear Bastuk hub from TR shop, did only 17,000 miles, its a Powertune bearing, it looks as if it was tightened too much when new, the other damage that you can see is me trying to get the bearing off the shaft. Not impressed, TR shop not interested after 5 years..... If you look closely at the track it was only really touching at the top of the bearing, so all the load at that ring on the top. The hub turned ok when I fitted it, but no play. Got a new Timken bearings for the hub, the new one doesn't want to go on the shaft, old one just slides on and off. John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 Hi John, Contact Bastuck tell them the issue and if possible send them the broken parts. After 5 years I'm not surprised that the TRShop where not playing ball. As an aside I bought a pair of new Moss hubs about three years ago. As a test I run them up on a lathe for 30 minutes or so at 400rpm. One got very warm but was OK. The other actually locked up. Moss took it all apart but could find no reason. The bearings SKF (£££) got binned. New bearings fitted. It got very warm under test but was OK. They were very stiff. Three years and 40,000 miles and all OK, no play. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
monty Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 Pay the extra & go for the quality Timken bearing from a proper bearing supplier. If we keep buying this cheap rubbish we will get what we deserve. Just replaced today yet another stop light switch supplied by Moss which lasted a couple of months! Just junk! I bought my Timken bearings a couple of years ago from Bearing- King in Sheffield @ £48. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Morrison Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 Yep. John. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 21 minutes ago, monty said: Pay the extra & go for the quality Timken bearing from a proper bearing supplier. If we keep buying this cheap rubbish we will get what we deserve. Just replaced today yet another stop light switch supplied by Moss which lasted a couple of months! Just junk! I bought my Timken bearings a couple of years ago from Bearing- King in Sheffield @ £48. Hi Monty, forget those tatty plastic switches. These work well https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Brake-Light-Switch-Lucas-SMB429-Replaces-1368786-61311350645-61311368786/323906263730?fits=Car+Make%3ABMW&epid=1526775063&hash=item4b6a515ab2:g:gJgAAOSwOXBdm2OJ Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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