mike ellis Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 I am posting this on behalf of a French member who requires help with hard top fitting. He would like some information and photographs of how the headlining is attached. If anyone can assist could you either post here or send to my email address in the back of TRaction. Thanks in advance Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Richardtr3a Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 I fixed a black felt lining with adhesive. It looks well and you can tuck the felt in under the window seal. Do your sidescreens fit the hardtop?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR 2100 Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 No photos - long time since I was driving with a TR3 hardtop, up the motorway (with Buckles in the back seat - on the way to a Commitee eeting - that should date it!) The beige felt-like headlining was glued directly to the hardtop shell. Plus, there as a strip metal 'spring' that went from side to side. About ½" wide sprung steel. Sure someone will have photos. AlanR Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james christie Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 Buckles in the back seat of a TR3 with the hardtop on - now that must have required some drinking of a lot of Lewis Caroll's shrinking mixture. Bet he still didn't have Alice's good looks though James Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iain Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Mike you have an email Quote Link to post Share on other sites
McMuttley Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 I have some pics of my hardtop lining process, noise dampening, foam and then vinyl - all from Woolies - pm your email if you want them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 No photos - long time since I was driving with a TR3 hardtop, up the motorway (with Buckles in the back seat - on the way to a Commitee eeting - that should date it!) The beige felt-like headlining was glued directly to the hardtop shell. Plus, there as a strip metal 'spring' that went from side to side. About ½" wide sprung steel. Sure someone will have photos. AlanR PAB does still fit in a TR. We went to Jan's funeral service in my TR3A. Peter W Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foster461 Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 What is the purpose of the spring steel strip ?. It doesn't seem to be part of the headliner. Is it there just to hold the hardtop shape, stop the drumming ?. I don't have one, is it necessary ?. Stan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 What is the purpose of the spring steel strip ?. It doesn't seem to be part of the headliner. Is it there just to hold the hardtop shape, stop the drumming ?. I don't have one, is it necessary ?. Stan As far as I could work out it is there to hold the headlining into the crown of the hardtop - when the glue fails. Peter W Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foster461 Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 As far as I could work out it is there to hold the headlining into the crown of the hardtop - when the glue fails. Peter W So the original headlining was attached to that strip somehow ?. On my TR6 hardtop the glue held up fine, it was the foam layer that reverted back to its natural state letting the fabric fall off. Stan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don H. Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 Guys, please post the hardtop info here in the thread -- it would be a most useful addition to the collective knowledge! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 I would turn to Glynn Hopps here on the forum. He currently owns Raymond's old car. And you can be sure that Raymond made a study out of it before he embarked on the hardtop queste. There's a fair chance that Glynn's car came with tons of pics of the restoration of his car. Menno Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iain Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 (edited) Hi Pictures as requested An original Hardtop showing the remants of the Union Wool Cloth Lining and the position of the Spring Steel Strip....across from side to side at screw 5 on the cant rails. I bought new Union Wool cloth from Woolies in Beige, as close to the original as possible, however it is not wide enough to allow trimming in one piece. Joins were required, I am no trimmer but here is the result. The wool cloth is felt like in texture and will take a lot of stretching to the curvatures, held in pale by Woolies High Temperature adhesive. As yet I have to trim the sprung steel strip which is covered in the same material, positioned and then in my hardtop was cushioned at either end with a wadd of excess trim material packing the ends behind the hardtop inner skin. Hope that helps Iain Edited December 19, 2016 by iain Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foster461 Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 Thanks for the pictures Iain. Very helpful. So that spring strip get covered and then sits on the outside of the headlining ? Stan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 Thanks for the pictures Iain. Very helpful. So that spring strip get covered and then sits on the outside of the headlining ? Stan Basically yes. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iain Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 Hi Stan sorry yes it sits between those two points under tension.....I assume it helps to reduce drumming? I hope so anyway Cheers Iain Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foster461 Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 Hi Stan sorry yes it sits between those two points under tension.....I assume it helps to reduce drumming? I hope so anyway Cheers Iain Iain, thanks again for the additional details. When you get a chance could you measure the dimensions of that strip ?. I have no idea how we could make one yet but having the dimensions especially the thickness would be a start. Stan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 Iain, thanks again for the additional details. When you get a chance could you measure the dimensions of that strip ?. I have no idea how we could make one yet but having the dimensions especially the thickness would be a start. Stan Not local but a possible supplier when you get dimensions. http://www.precisionsteel.com/contact-us Peter W Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 Its sprung steel BTW which is how it stays up. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iain Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 (edited) Hi Stan as Stuarts says its sprung steel, 49"1/4 long, 1" wide and 0.055" thick ( 1.37mm) Gauge? Sections "A" are straight, before a gentle curve which then straightens over the centre. It also has a 12" "V" shallow (1/8") depression when viewed from above centred on its width and length.......additional reinforcing in the centre of the Hardtop? Dimensions are crudely written on the photo below, hope this helps Iain Edited December 20, 2016 by iain Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foster461 Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 Hi Stan as Stuarts says its sprung steel, 49"1/4 long, 1" wide and 0.055" thick ( 1.37mm) Gauge? Sections "A" are straight, before a gentle curve which then straightens over the centre. It also has a 12" "V" shallow (1/8") depression when viewed from above centred on its width and length.......additional reinforcing in the centre of the Hardtop? Dimensions are crudely written on the photo below, hope this helps Iain Perfect, thanks Iain. I guess I will begin the search for some suitable spring steel sheet. Stan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foster461 Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 Not local but a possible supplier when you get dimensions. http://www.precisionsteel.com/contact-us Peter W I was looking at their web site yesterday Peter and discouraged by the $300 minimum but I will ask around and see if there are other options. Stan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don H. Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 I was looking at their web site yesterday Peter and discouraged by the $300 minimum but I will ask around and see if there are other options. Stan It might be worth a call to Mark Macy, Stan -- with his interest in hardtops and his production of new rear windows, he's probably thought about this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foster461 Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 It might be worth a call to Mark Macy, Stan -- with his interest in hardtops and his production of new rear windows, he's probably thought about this. Good idea Tom. Coincidentally Tonda and I were briefly colleagues before she quit and went to work full time for the business. Stan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nigel C Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 I'll just throw this in for good measure, I have a new rear acrylic screen in stock if anyone wants one....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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