Andrew Smith Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 (edited) Hi Folks, Getting on with cleaning the TR6 engine bay and came across another example of the quality of ST paintwork. It seems when the factory sprayed my car (possibly late one Friday afternoon in 1970 ) they left the loom tag (under the washer bottle) hard against the surface of the inner wing with consequent results................and who said the quality of British workmanship in the 70s was ****? Cheers Andrew Edited July 20, 2014 by Andrew Smith Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cmdr19 Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 So why don't people replicate that when doing concours rebuilds? Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ntc Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 That is std Andrew. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Cobbold Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 Hey, that's patina- and you've destroyed it. FIVA will have your guts for garters. Put it back as it was. Peter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marko Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 Just as a matter of interest, and some of you guys may already know this... I spent an interesting couple of hours in my truck transporting a lovely old Alvis for a gentleman that used to be very senior in ICI in the early sixties. One of his jobs was to inspect the paint installations in the field and report on and detail the application of paint in the motor trade. He was involved with Standard Triumph and a lot of the early sixties sports and saloon car production (Austin, Mini, Morris, Triumph, MG, Jaguar etc) He explained that the british steel panels were shipped with Lanolin between the panels and on all edges. The production line were meant to wipe the lanolin off prior to the cars being painted by the paint sprayers. This wasn't being done as the production lines tried to save time and produce more vehicles and were more often on bonuses for higher production figures. Because this Lanolin remained in the joints, when the car was sprayed and subsequently "baked" the lanolin disolved and the panels were then bare metal to bare metal, which is why when some unrestored cars are taken apart for the first time it looks like there was no paint inbetween the panels.... Interesting bit of trivia.....I'm sure some smart arse will say that - this was not possible but this information came from a very senior ICI paint man....I believe him!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alec Pringle Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 Hi Mark, I'm sure your information is correct, I've heard similar comment long ago. Lanolin was a standard sheet metal protection, an efficient rust preventative and lanolin coated panels were easy to weld, the remaining lanolin after welding helped prevent corrosion between dissimilar metals. Cheers Alec Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don H. Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 I believe lanolin is used to this day in some well-respected anticorrosion treatments, such as Fluid Film. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Andrew you should know by now that all TR`s were painted "Line of sight" only, if you couldnt see it then why waste time and paint. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
littlejim Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Da b*gger blabbed! You weren't supposed to tell anyone. That's your security clearance down the tubes matey. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don H. Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 ...painted "Line of sight" only... ISTR the original circa 1970-73 Datzun 240Z cars in the US market (and I'm sure the rest of the world) had completely unpainted bare metal around the wheel well lips. Another line of sight thing, I guess, before cars where dipped and electrophoretically primed. I'd much rather have an inner wing with a tiny spot of bare metal than an exterior part with the environmental exposure of a wheel well. S-T could have done less! (Of course, I would check your wheel wells, Andrew.) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Smith Posted July 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Hi Folks, Looking at the boot now, and it gets better if that's possible - it seems that an erstwhile ST assembler left a washer in the boot before it got to the spraying line (please note I didn't say booth!) and yes, you've guessed it, it was sprayed over.............don't you just love it! Stuart, 'Line of sight' - not sure I would use the word 'sight'................ Peter, That's not patina - it's better than that, it's history.........in any event it was covered over with grim. Jimbo, Yep, blown it big style - I'll never be allowed in the the ST Workingman's club in Coventry! Cheers Andrew Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 You do realise you have now devalued it by removing the washer from its "Original" position. :lol: Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don H. Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 ...don't you just love it! ... Well, after 45 years in the same place it seems not to have hurt anything. I think it would be good joss to leave it in place. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clarkey Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 TUT TUT Andrew After all your preaching about originality. your meddling fella leave it alone!!!!!! :ph34r: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Smith Posted July 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Chaps, don't fret - it ain't going anywhere! Cheers Andrew Quote Link to post Share on other sites
graeme Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 I thought that I had seen photos of TR bodys being dipped in a paint tank. Or was this just publicity? Graeme Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Smith Posted July 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 I thought that I had seen photos of TR bodys being dipped in a paint tank. Or was this just publicity? Graeme Graeme, Time to put the those 'special' fags away - they are causing hallucinations....... This will give you some idea of how ST painted our cars at Coventry............ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM1rnfIdqtM Cheers Andrew Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NickR Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Interesting, I had always been under the misapprehension that the mask was to prevent the paint getting into your mouth and lungs. Now I see the professionals at work, I realise that it is to stop paint getting onto your chin! great video, Nick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jersey Royal Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Interesting it does also, buy the markings look like a used washer. Cheers GUY Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Graeme, Time to put the those 'special' fags away - they are causing hallucinations....... This will give you some idea of how ST painted our cars at Coventry............ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM1rnfIdqtM Cheers Andrew So that day was red ones and blue ones then Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peejay4A Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 And no respirators being used! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Never mind respirators they arent even using dust masks Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AlanT Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Great film that. Shows a system set up to loose money. And then you cut corners to try to get it back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
graeme Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Graeme, Time to put the those 'special' fags away - they are causing hallucinations....... This will give you some idea of how ST painted our cars at Coventry............ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM1rnfIdqtM Cheers Andrew Thanks Andrew, I am off the fags now. A whole two coats of Cellulose colour, wow. Cheers Graeme Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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