Dave Squance Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 Hi i’m looking for power assisted steering system for my TR6. Does any members have any recommendations I have been looking at hydraulic. I can’t find very much on electric. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Boyd Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 Classic Driving Developments do a hydraulic kit Holden vintage do an electric one Tom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve-B Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 (edited) I spoke to Michael a few months ago from Ezpowersteeringuk who make kits for historic cars as my neighbour with a 1950's Alfa used them happily. I seem to recall the cost of the TR6 column would be £2,180.00 inc vat and delivery. generally available from stock at their factory. Note: that price was in Oct 23 so may have changed. I have no affiliation and haven't purchased, but from the instructions they sent to me it looks very clear to DIY. Edited March 19 by Steve-B Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Macleesh Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 Each to his own but I've always found EPAS to be a bit artificial in every modern I've driven. Given the CDD hydraulic option is listed as £1400 I'd be beating a path to their door if I was ever in the market for PAS for my TR6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Squance Posted March 19 Author Report Share Posted March 19 I spoken to classic Car developments, and they seem a little bit slow in returning any information to Me. Do we know of anybody in the TR register that I’ve used them and confirm their system is good for the TR6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Squance Posted March 19 Author Report Share Posted March 19 I will look forward to hearing from Alistair, classic Car developments Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PodOne Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 Hi Dave Bought quite a few parts from Alistair over the last few years and always being happy with his parts and communication. I'm sure get back to you. For what its worth if I wanted power steering I think I'd go with CDD kit as the assistance is maximum at low speed/parking and reduces with speed and likely will maintain the original "feel" and is DIY. I'm sure someone will come along who actually has it fitted to comment further. Andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nigel A Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 CDD PAS is excellent, fitted about 3 years ago after several recommendations on here. Nigel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nigel A Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 Here is a link to my original post Nigel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnC Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 2 hours ago, Dave Squance said: Do we know of anybody in the TR register that I’ve used them and confirm their system is good for the TR6 I have it and it's fantastic. Straightforward to fit but only with an electric fan mounted in front of the rad. Yes, Alasdair can be a little slow to respond to emails. I seem to recall he has somebody who helps him manage the Facebook Messenger channel so try that as well. JC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mleadbeater Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 A few years ago I fitted electric power steering to my ‘82 BMW, using a Corsa column and drive , bought on ebay for around £50. If you have good engineering skills and some machine tools, this can be a challenging and enjoyable project. I believe there are new options for speed variable sensing, use gps. The whole job only cost around 80 quid or so, it transformed the car, making it a pleasure to drive. Photo shows the project in process, more info available if needed. cheers Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z320 Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 (edited) A EPS from a Renault Clio 2 might be smaller and fit TRs perfect. It uses the same unit like EZ Powersteering does. If you got a lathe it will cost you a total of 100-150 Euro. Edited March 20 by Z320 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malbaby Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 On 3/20/2024 at 1:55 AM, Steve-B said: I spoke to Michael a few months ago from Ezpowersteeringuk who make kits for historic cars as my neighbour with a 1950's Alfa used them happily. I seem to recall the cost of the TR6 column would be £2,180.00 inc vat and delivery. generally available from stock at their factory. Note: that price was in Oct 23 so may have changed. I have no affiliation and haven't purchased, but from the instructions they sent to me it looks very clear to DIY. One problem with EPAS aftermarket systems is their method of mounting the unit under the dash...An Automotive Engineer would never pass the installation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mleadbeater Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 Malbaby can you give use some more details as to why? cheers Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CharlieBubbles Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 Have the CDD unit fitted by Alistair at his place and it’s excellent. One quick thought: what size tyres are you running? I’ve come down from ridiculously big 205s to 185s and it has made a dramatic difference to the lightness of the steering even with the CDD unit fitted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 15 minutes ago, CharlieBubbles said: Have the CDD unit fitted by Alistair at his place and it’s excellent. One quick thought: what size tyres are you running? I’ve come down from ridiculously big 205s to 185s and it has made a dramatic difference to the lightness of the steering even with the CDD unit fitted. Even better if you go down to original issue size 165s then you wouldnt need power steering Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CharlieBubbles Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 54 minutes ago, stuart said: Even better if you go down to original issue size 165s then you wouldnt need power steering Stuart. A thought that subsequently crossed my mind Stuart! I inherited the 205s and if the difference between them and the 185s is doubled by going down to 165s I can see exactly what you’re saying. The CDD set up with 185s is definitely ‘light’; I personally wouldn’t like to try it with 165s. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rogerguzzi Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 Hello All This how I have done my Vitesse using a kit but you do need a lathe etc I went for the manual adjust power assit I did look at buying bits off Fleabay but it was the control box that confused me! Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z320 Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 The black box is same-same from Bruno Steering / Portugal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malbaby Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 (edited) 11 hours ago, mleadbeater said: Malbaby can you give use some more details as to why? cheers Mike IMHO.....The light guage steel bracket that is attached to the firewall to bolt down the column was OK back in the day, but not these days. All of the aftermarket EPAS systems that I have seen only have an additional steel stay attached as support for the steering column. There is column torque generated by the unit and should be addressed properly...eg..delete the existing firewall bracket and bolt/weld in a substantial dedicated bracket. The price of the "Ezpowersteeringuk" unit is OTT, whereas a unit such as "Z320's" can be fabricated at a much lower cost. "Stuart" is correct regarding tyre size. Edited March 21 by Malbaby Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z320 Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 I agree with the price from EZ powersteering - they run a business. What I do is playing with my toys as this is my hobby. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Squance Posted March 22 Author Report Share Posted March 22 today my power assisted steering will arrive.from CCD. I will write a report on this forum about fitting and how good it is with my 205 tyres. if I need advice, I’m sure Alistair will be able to help Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnC Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 2 hours ago, Dave Squance said: today my power assisted steering will arrive.from CCD. I will write a report on this forum about fitting and how good it is with my 205 tyres. if I need advice, I’m sure Alistair will be able to help I'm sure you'll find it a delight to fit and use. I just hope that Alasdair doesn't mind you mis-spelling his name Quote Link to post Share on other sites
reginald Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 Hi I fitted CDD power steering over Christmas, the earlier version ran from the crank pully as described in the instructions on their webb site. The latest version drives from the water pump pully with a shorter drive belt new pump supplied with double pully. My observation when fitting which I did my self. Do not fit with the engine lifting Eye which instructions say can be left on if wished, with it left on the pump does not run square. The pump pully was 3mm out of alignment so I made some spacers to align it, this is noticeable with the short belt, the older version with the longer belt to the crank would not have been noticable. The other issue I had was the front cross member in front of the engine. My car is a 75US car and the lugs which support the radiator struts are below the bar Which ment they prevented the hoses being attached to the rack, I had to cut them off and re weld on top of the bar early cars ok google images helped on this to spot the deference. I think the original kit had a new one supplied looking at the kit diagram due to larger crank pully Lastly if webbers fitted and depending on filter type the mount bracket for the reseviour can't be used and has to be mount in a different position I did pass my findings to Alistair at Stoneleigh triumph spares day Hope this is helpful Richard Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malbaby Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 Does anyone know where the power rack that CDD uses is sourced from.....must be from a manufactured car. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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