michaeldavis39 Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 In case anyone did not know quality UK made bumpers are now available. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 Nothing on their web site !!! Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saffrontr Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 I see its for the later CR series why does no one reproduce a bumper for the earlier cars, it must be easier to fabricate? Derek Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, saffrontr said: I see its for the later CR series why does no one reproduce a bumper for the earlier cars, it must be easier to fabricate? Derek Simple economics? The later bumper will fit all cars ( except the later US with rubber over riders.) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
astontr6 Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 30 minutes ago, RogerH said: Nothing on their web site !!! Roger Also Roger they could not tell me what grade of S/S they were made of? In my opinion they have to be made of 304 marine grade like the ones from the Far East. Bruce Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DRD Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 hour ago, astontr6 said: Also Roger they could not tell me what grade of S/S they were made of? In my opinion they have to be made of 304 marine grade like the ones from the Far East. Bruce They are chrome ones rather than S/S. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PodOne Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 7 hours ago, DRD said: They are chrome ones rather than S/S. If they are it begs the question how good is the chrome and will it last? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saffrontr Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 Blue TR3A - 5EKT, they might fit the earlier cars but they sit further out and lower so for the person wanting originality they are not correct. Derek Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 (edited) Now here is a question for the TR6 specialists and those with accurate knowledge. Is the main pressing of the early front bumper the same as the later one? Is the bracket work that is welded to it, the thing that makes the position different? I think the captive nut at the wing ends changes size too. If so I will ask the manufacturers if they would produce tooling for the different brackets of the early design and an assembly jig for welding them in the right places and find out how many to order to cover those additional costs to make a return on investment worthwhile. They will probably need at least 2 good (as in tatty but not crashed) front bumpers to use as patterns that may not be returned intact. Access to a couple of unmolested cars would be required too, to check the tatty sample’s accuracy before sending them away for patterning from. Armed with the right info perhaps SDF could get involved. Cheers Peter W Edited February 26, 2022 by BlueTR3A-5EKT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike C Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 13 hours ago, DRD said: They are chrome ones rather than S/S. Why would you buy chromed bumpers when you can get good ones in stainless steel? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saffrontr Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 Peter, as far as I am aware it is just the bracket work attached to the rear of the bumpers that is different. You can see the difference in the attached image, just need the measurements. Derek Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saffrontr Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 (edited) Peter, I should add that I do have an original early bumper that has been on my shelf for the past thirty or so years that I guess I will never get around to having repaired so that could be used as a pattern. It is the original one from my car, ORN 625K in the earlier post, so I know that it does fit, has good chrome, minor damage on the underside of one corner and a sheared off fixing stud. Derek Edited February 26, 2022 by saffrontr typo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 Thank you Derek. I am waiting for a response from SDF Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DRD Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 14 hours ago, PodOne said: If they are it begs the question how good is the chrome and will it last? If its as good quality as a rechromed original then it should last a very long time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DRD Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 8 hours ago, Mike C said: Why would you buy chromed bumpers when you can get good ones in stainless steel? Decent rechromed ones look better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PodOne Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 1 minute ago, DRD said: If its as good quality as a rechromed original then it should last a very long time. There is still a lot of variation in the quality of rechromed. New items often looks good to start with only to start looking shabby. I guess its all down to the preparation and the process which costs money. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 9 hours ago, Mike C said: Why would you buy chromed bumpers when you can get good ones in stainless steel? Chrome has that deeper lustre that SS can only dream of. Also a Chromed surface is easier to repair back to concourse condition. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
michaelfinnis Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 10 hours ago, BlueTR3A-5EKT said: Now here is a question for the TR6 specialists and those with accurate knowledge. Is the main pressing of the early front bumper the same as the later one? Is the bracket work that is welded to it, the thing that makes the position different? I think the captive nut at the wing ends changes size too. If so I will ask the manufacturers if they would produce tooling for the different brackets of the early design and an assembly jig for welding them in the right places and find out how many to order to cover those additional costs to make a return on investment worthwhile. They will probably need at least 2 good (as in tatty but not crashed) front bumpers to use as patterns that may not be returned intact. Access to a couple of unmolested cars would be required too, to check the tatty sample’s accuracy before sending them away for patterning from. Armed with the right info perhaps SDF could get involved. Cheers Peter W Hi Pete, I have an original early front bumper going spare, its actually on e-bay at the moment. It has some minor defects and the captive nuts have been replaced by welded studs but it is basically straight and usable. Not had any takers yet! ebay no. 304361038673 Mike. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mk2 Chopper Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 This would be great news, it bugs me having a stainless one fitted lower than the original one (CP). Gareth Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 Hi Folks, I contacted Jeff M at Moss and he replied with this - These bumpers are a very good reproduction, made in Taiwan by a company whose quality is always consistent and good. Only the Later 822530 version of the TR6 front bumpers has ever been remade(going back circa 30 years), until now most owners have been content with this situation The 822530 sits further away from the body and has stronger boxed in mountings, It will fit all models of TR6 except the late USA version with the raised fitment position, however the early bumper 908376 also fits all models. I will ask Pete at BMH if he would be interested in pursuing the manufacture of the early version. Many thanks to Jeff for a quick reply. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
astontr6 Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 On 2/26/2022 at 9:05 AM, DRD said: If its as good quality as a rechromed original then it should last a very long time. Some of the original chemicals that were used 50 years ago have been banned 20 to 30 years ago. Therefore the plating will not be as good? I would only want s/s in 304 grade! Bruce. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waldi Posted March 3, 2022 Report Share Posted March 3, 2022 What Howell (Walsall) told be some 25 years ago when he rechromed original parts for me, is that they first remove the old chrome, then fix dents, then submerge in a “copper” bath (basically the “filler”, then polish, then the “nickel” bath and finally a “chrome” bath. Think they called it double plating. Waldi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted March 3, 2022 Report Share Posted March 3, 2022 Hi Waldi, Copper, Nickel, Chrome - Triple coated or Triple plated Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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