Oddball Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 Hi All I am trying to find a reliable supplier of NGK BUR6ET plugs. There seems to be an ever increasing number of fakes turning up even from some well known retailers. I may be kidding myself, but I wondered if this particular plug is less likely to be faked due to its more limited demand and extra complexity in manufacture. If anyone has a reliable source, I would be grateful, Thanks Cameron Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobH Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 I got some from the Green Spark Plug Company which seem OK. https://www.gsparkplug.com/1x-ngk-copper-core-spark-plug-bur6et-3172.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AndyR100 Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 another positive experience here with the Green Spark Plug Company, they stock BUR6ET's . ....... Andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 Hi Cameron, are they fake or simply 'modern' Modern engines run very lean and the plugs are engineered down to this level - the ceramic coating appears to be less than many years ago. The TR engine (4 or 6 pot) tends to be wet. This can penetrate the ceramic and the plug fails early. I used NGK on my 4A up to 2017. They were failing after about 1000 miles. I changed to Champion L87 and all seemed much better for longer. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fireman049 Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) Hi Cameron ~ I also had bad experiences with NGK plugs. They may well have been inferior Chinese reproductions? When I worked in the Triumph garage in 1959 I bought four Champion L10 plugs for my father's Vauxhall Wyvern. These were never used. I found them in my garage a few years ago, still in their boxes. They are now fitted in my 3A. Best regards ~ Tom. Edited April 15, 2020 by Fireman049 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fireman049 Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 I remember in the late 60's the Ambulance Service had a lot of trouble with Champion L9Y plugs for some reason which I can't remember. Tom. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Oddball Posted April 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 Thanks All Its interesting what’s happened to Champion over the years. They certainly had problems for a while, however some say they are back to their best again. Cameron Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 How to check if your NGKs are fake http://www.ngk-sparkplugs.jp/english/techinfo/fake/index.html Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ian Vincent Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 Unless the manufacturer of the fake plugs has seen the above post and corrected his mistakes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Oddball Posted April 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 23 minutes ago, Ian Vincent said: Unless the manufacturer of the fake plugs has seen the above post and corrected his mistakes. They certainly have because the some of the fakes have numbers stamped on the hex nut. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Moltu Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 There have been many reports of fake NGKs over many years. NGK have reputely put a lot of effort into stamping it out and is thought to be less of an issue these days but still goes on. Had a few on the 7 (long gone) and stopped buying them on eBay apart from known trusted retailers like the one below. Had the same on the Stag and changing 8 plugs is a pain in the behind. I've used the Green Spark Co and not has fakes from them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Cameron said: They certainly have because the some of the fakes have numbers stamped on the hex nut. Probably because that link I posted is from 2006 so they've had plenty of time to up their game, One thing that I have found is to use old plugs for any first start on freshly rebuilt engines as brand new NGK don't like getting wet with over fuelling. They're fine once youve got the engine to run for a bit. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
roger murray-evans Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 I will NEVER use the Green Spark Co again.Sold me a rotor arm (for an L series Vauxhall) which packed up within 5 miles. When I rang to request a replacement, the owner scoffed that it was almost impossible for such a basic component to fail.He'd sold loads with no problems.'It's a piece of plastic and a lump of brass, what could possibly go wrong?' (with that 'you bloody idiot' sort of tone) However, they reluctantly sent a replacement. I asked whether he'd like the 'old' one returned for investigation but he wasn't interested.What could it tell him? Fitted the 'new' one immediately and that, too, failed within 5 miles. I refitted the old Lucas rotor (which I had been getting very skilled at) and have had no problems. I received an unsolicited package some months later from the GSP Co enclosing yet another rotor arm with a note to say they had been experiencing some problems with this component and would I like to try this new one? The damage had been done as far as I'm concerned and I'm afraid it went straight into the bin. These components are available from other sources fortunately. I'm sure others have experienced nothing but First Class care and attention from this company, but my experience has been less than edifying. Roger M-E Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fireman049 Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 For my money I'd not hesitate in using Distributor Doctor. His items are nothing short of First Class. Tom. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Richardtr3a Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 Distributor Doctor is the only supplier to use for rotor arms. He is an honest supplier and has carried out a lot of research. He is also good at condensers. He overhauled my distributor and found that the last company had fitted the wrong springs and weights about 20 years ago. DD can be trusted. I understood that the workers at NGK were stealing the boxes and having the plugs made in private workshops with no quality testing. It would be quite hard to stop that kind of cheating. I went to Green spark plug co. and bought Nippon Denso for my 3A. They are very expensive but improved the running and starting. After the first start I do not need the choke again. Richard & B. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
roger murray-evans Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 Yes Tom and Richard, that's exactly where I have placed my business since! Roger M-E Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie D Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 Roger, You said that he claimed : "He'd sold loads with no problems." I really HATE that attitude. I’ve had it several times in my life from different companies and it always means “ We have probably sold loads of **** stuff, but most people don’t bother to complain.” I had it from Halfords a year of so back. I bought the roughest valve-grinding tool you have ever seen. (A simple wooden stick with suckers on the end.) When I took it back for a refund the girl on the desk said: “We sell loads of these and no one has ever complained before.” Urmmm… Halfords sell loads of valve grinding tools? Yes.. Of course there are loads of people that grind their own valves these days. I have run several small companies in my life and have always held the belief that: “The customer is always right!” Yes, sometimes the customer was a total idiot, and I knew he was wrong, but I always apologized and gave them their money back. It gets you repeat business eventually I have never heard a bad word about the DD. (If anyone has, please let us know.) Charlie. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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