fw14b Posted January 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Bloody hell, I do seem to attract them. Another bloody scammer!!! And another twat that can't spell! Hello, Thanks for the quick response about the product am buying from you,anyway the price is OK by me but i will like you to know that payment will be made by Check.. If this mode of payment is OK by you. Kindly send your information which you will like to receive the payment from the post man, so that i can instruct my secretary to issued it immediately Name to be on Check.... Address where Check..will be received by you:....... Phone Number's such as Mobile,Land line and Office number:.... Asking Price......... Never mind about the pick up, it will be after you must have cleared the payment from your Bank Account. Await your Quick Response so that i can arrange for the payment immediately. Thanks and Get back On 1/17/16, Graeme Thoburn <fw14b@sky.com> wrote: The asking price you know. The pictures are on the website you looked at to get the information. Sent from my iPad On 17 Jan 2016, at 13:18, Jackie Braze <kuvosky12@gmail.com> wrote: Send pictures with your asking price. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rex Wyer Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) Just had the same reply from an ad site. I have on the TR Register Buy sell trade I thought it sounded an alarm bell so have deleted the ad on the site Interesting that Braze had sent me an e:mail just 1 minute before fw14b got his. . Edited January 17, 2016 by Rex Wyer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
openroad Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 I have had the same....!!! Conrad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
McMuttley Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 Always best to ignore such emails. Even telling them to foff simply serves to confirm that your email is live. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
James67 Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Hi All I received a similar e-mail and at the risk of appearing stupid kinder don't understand where the scam is Here a copy of the E mail I received Jackie Braze <kuvosky12@gmail.com> Jan 17 at 6:55 PM To james kearney Message body Hello,Thanks for the quick response about the product am buying fromyou,anyway the price is OK by me but i will like you to know thatpayment will be made by Check..If this mode of payment is OK by you. Kindly send your informationwhich you will like to receive the payment from the post man, so thati can instruct my secretary to issued it immediatelyName to be on Check....Address where Check..will be received by you:.......Phone Number's such as Mobile,Land line and Office number:....Asking Price.........Never mind about the pick up, it will be after you must have clearedthe payment from your Bank Account.Await your Quick Response so that i can arrange for the payment immediately.Thanks and Get back -----------------------------------------End------------------------------------------------------------ So I attached some photos and sent them to him or her????????? I then received an e-mail asking for my home address which I did not send since then I haven't heard any more as a said earlier I just don't get it James, a Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john.r.davies Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 James, He pays by cheque, you give him the goods, the cheque bounces. Simples! All the stuff about collection after clearance is window dressing. John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alec Pringle Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 There's more to it than just bouncing cheques, John, it's an intro to identity theft if the victim is not very careful . . . . . The idea of having an open Buy/Sell section on our website is quite simply misconceived, no matter how well intentioned. We're simply opening a door to the kind of scum who target the innocent / gullible / naïve / trusting members. I suggest that has been adequately demonstrated . . . . . Cheers Alec Quote Link to post Share on other sites
James67 Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Hi John After sale probably wouldn't let goods leave my premises until the cash in my hands or the check had previously cleared. I've done a bit of looking into this on Google and it is looking like it's turning out to be an identity scan. When you get some of these unsolicited E mails if you some of sentences you can see where they turn up in other forums. James........... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nick Clark Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Wish I'd seen this earlier. I was approached by Kuvosky12 as well. Only after I gave my address and mobile/landline numbers did I think something was odd. I phoned the bank who said probably application fraud was most likely objective. I also dialled 101 and got a crime number from the police, in case something is attempted in future. I always felt sorry for people who were scammed - now I am one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
McMuttley Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Looking in Google, it appears that the same email message text has been in use for several years - always the same, targeting forum sale sites from magic, to lutes and now TR's ! The email name obviously changes frequently as it becomes blocked. As I get dozens of scam emails a day via the company site, I can spot most dodgy emails, indeed I now treat most email from a company or strange party with suspicion !!! - especially those that ask you to open an attachment, be it an alleged invoice, receipt, form to fill etc etc or a link to click (these are often virus designed to search your machine). I have some clever filtering software, but many still get through and they are looking increasingly genuine. I suspect they are not after your money or planning to rob you right here and now, but are collecting information to sell on others for identity theft / hacking in due course. It would be helpful if the register could post some guidelines on the sale and wanted section on spotting debatable emails/messages and how to tread with caution. For now I would suggest that anyone correspond through the system rather than private email with anyone they do not know. Provide no personal information, no matter how mundane, until you have established that the inquiry is genuine. If the party keeps referring to say the 'item' or the 'product', rather than the 'clutch', then they are not likely to be genuine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john.r.davies Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) My daughter (The Doctor) tells me that she has received the old Nigerian Scam again recently. You know, "I happen to have €13 million and need to get it into the UK - please send me all your bank details and you can have 10%" But this time apparently from a Spanish Law firm (that really exists!) and by letter! Real printed paper, an envelope and stamp! Either more mugs are falling for it, or they can forge stamps too! John Edited January 19, 2016 by john.r.davies Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nowtelse2do Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 With a name like Kuvosky, he could be a check Dave Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnG Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Must admit, looking at the text as written, a couple of small thing jump out; The phrasing is poor - so the writer is probably not a native English speaker, who learned English in a school in the UK We spell it 'cheque' Another slip I have seen is 'cell' for mobile When I had an "enquiry" from Malta for my 6 it was 'check' and 'cell' that put me off . . . .combined with the amount of personal info requested Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alan atkinson Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) Hi John After sale probably wouldn't let goods leave my premises until the cash in my hands or the check had previously cleared. I've done a bit of looking into this on Google and it is looking like it's turning out to be an identity scan. When you get some of these unsolicited E mails if you some of sentences you can see where they turn up in other forums. James........... Even if it clears it can still be reversed weeks later. Here for sure, but I never paid one into my old Lloyds account so am not sure if clearance rules differ back there.Google cashiers check - us spelling - scam. Edited January 19, 2016 by alan atkinson Quote Link to post Share on other sites
openroad Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 This Scamming is obviously affecting more of us than we think and cant be stopped............ But with the old system of buy and selling informally on the forum, did we have this problem ? Not that i can remember. I had the same so called buyer as the rest, the email was so abrupt and none personal, it wouldnt have come from a member....but then you think, how can i judge the way a person writes an email. The old system was more personal and was for all to see.......nothing to hide and plenty of banter.. Back to fighting off the scammers, Conrad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wayne Scott Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 I'll be removing the option to display email addresses and phone numbers from now on and forcing all users to use a contact form facility - site wide. A plea from me, please please only input your contact details into the contact details area of the classifieds form. That way they are protected by the form. Please , please help us to help you and DO NOT write your email address and telephone number in the description of the item you are selling. The same as posting on the forum, please do not publish email addresses in your threads or replies, use the PM facility to make initial contact. I have spent some time this afternoon editing adverts who have included personal contact details in the items description. The same goes for eBay, Pistonheads or any other internet advertising outlet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Geko Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Wayne, a simple Java script trick will hide both email and phone and will deter spy robots. The user will only have to click on the email or phone for it to appear. Not sure how it works but any web builder should know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR5tar Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 (edited) As I get dozens of scam emails a day via the company site, I can spot most dodgy emails, indeed I now treat most email from a company or strange party with suspicion !!! - especially those that ask you to open an attachment, be it an alleged invoice, receipt, form to fill etc etc or a link to click (these are often virus designed to search your machine). I have some clever filtering software, but many still get through and they are looking increasingly genuine. I suspect they are not after your money or planning to rob you right here and now, but are collecting information to sell on others for identity theft / hacking in due course. It would be helpful if the register could post some guidelines on the sale and wanted section on spotting debatable emails/messages and how to tread with caution. For now I would suggest that anyone correspond through the system rather than private email with anyone they do not know. Provide no personal information, no matter how mundane, until you have established that the inquiry is genuine. If the party keeps referring to say the 'item' or the 'product', rather than the 'clutch', then they are not likely to be genuine. +1. I follow the same path as Austin when confronted by an email from someone I don't know. Always start from the position of assuming that it's a scam. Don't volunteer personal details, anytime, anywhere. My wife says I have trust issues . . . and she is right. I even get edgy if I think someone is following me home when I'm in the TR. I'll be removing the option to display email addresses and phone numbers from now on and forcing all users to use a contact form facility - site wide. A plea from me, please please only input your contact details into the contact details area of the classifieds form. That way they are protected by the form. Please , please help us to help you and DO NOT write your email address and telephone number in the description of the item you are selling. The same as posting on the forum, please do not publish email addresses in your threads or replies, use the PM facility to make initial contact. I have spent some time this afternoon editing adverts who have included personal contact details in the items description. The same goes for eBay, Pistonheads or any other internet advertising outlet. Sounds like a good solution Wayne. Cheers, Darren Edited January 20, 2016 by TR5tar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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