Paul Harvey Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 http://www.attingtonclassics.co.uk/motorcars/1966-triumph-tr4a/ just in time for IWE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lebro Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Only 2 new tyres after 32 years in storage ? But yes, sounds very nice Bob. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Smith Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Thanks Paul, I've spoken with the sellers and if not sold they will bring it to Malvern and if sold will pass on my details to the new owner. Cheers Andrew Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 So not that original then if you read the ad properly. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SuzanneH Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Nice TRibute for 75th Anniversary of The Battle of Britain today Andrew. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Motorsport Mickey Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 (edited) And if we needed reminding, from Tom Neil Hurricane pilot and World War 2 ace. "Of the original 20 or so men I flew alongside 75 years ago, I am now, I believe, one of only two still alive. I have, over the years since, considered it extraordinary that, although I lived and fought with these men for so short a time, they remain so vivid in my memory. I still recall their voices, laughter, jokes and idiosyncrasies. But I remember more than that. I remember their bravery. It struck me most poignantly at one memorial service when a young officer read from the Book of Samuel: “In life and in death, they were not divided; they were swifter than eagles, they were stronger than lions.” Today we shall remember their great sacrifices and be forever grateful. " Mick Richards Edited July 10, 2015 by Motorsport Mickey Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Smith Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Nice TRibute for 75th Anniversary of The Battle of Britain today Andrew. Thanks Suzanne- it seemed appropriate. Cheers Andrew Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sadman Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 I'm on my 2nd set, changed in 1986. the original (Firestone 590-15) tyre walls were starting to crack & get a bit too warm when I drove the car. I am seriously thinking of changing them as they now are all but 30 years old & probably only done less than 2000 miles, the spare is still unused. Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jersey Royal Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 So not that original then if you read the ad properly. Stuart. Indeed Repaint in 2011 and new outer cill, so surely it cant be classed as a survivor, just a nice Tr. Cheers Guy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steves_TR6 Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 Thanks Suzanne- it seemed appropriate. Cheers Andrew Surely you aren't 75 just yet Andrew? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 Without getting too technical what are, if any, the rules for the Survivors. Obviously service items must get replaced; how much painting - touch up is a service area - but a whole panel!! Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ianc Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 Could we ask that anyone driving on 30 year old tyres keeps speed to 30 mph maximum and stays well away from other vehicles so that if/when a tyre lets go, the accident may not involve others. I'm surprised that an MOT inspection allowed tyres of such age to be passed - my very thorough chap looks not only at sidewalls and tread, but the data which is moulded onto the sidewalls - and that includes a date code. Ian Cornish Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Harvey Posted July 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 Without getting too technical what are, if any, the rules for the Survivors. Roger I don't think there can be any hard and fast rules. The most advanced 'survivor' classes I know of are in USA for Corvettes where the ultimate classification will boot your car out if it has dealer applied underseal from new - dealer is not factory. But they made 1,595,026 Corvettes so they have to be fussy to distinguish the very best. How can you compare this to a car that had only, say, 100 ever produced? All Concours type classes rely on the knowledge and experience of the judge to decide what is truly 'rare' - a word we all understand but is hard to define. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alec Pringle Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 Date code does not come into the MoT - yet. A good tester will note ageing tyres as an 'advisory' and suggest replacement. At 30 years old, there's an argument for calling in the local bobby and nicking the driver under vehicle construction and use legislation. 30 year old Firestones have a future - for stacking up on the patio and growing potatoes in them . . . . . Cheers Alec Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Motorsport Mickey Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 "Firestone 590-15" famed as the Ditchfinder Generals. Mick Richards Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sadman Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 the firestones in question are long gone to the scrap/tyre heap in the sky & as the said car in the last 25 years does 2 to 3 miles miles per year to keep VOSA happy. From what I remember you're not wrong about Firestones being ditch finders, especially in the less than dry weather. Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted July 12, 2015 Report Share Posted July 12, 2015 Interesting - I thought the Firestone F560 worked very well on my 4A - wet & dry. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MRG1965 Posted July 12, 2015 Report Share Posted July 12, 2015 Hi, as the victim of a rear tyre failure (front wheel drive car and the rear tyres were 10 years old and still had 4mm left). I have to say change the tyres just becouse the tread is legal it does not mean carcass is sound and can fail at the very moment you are praying the tyres do their job. Mark Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted July 12, 2015 Report Share Posted July 12, 2015 Interesting - I thought the Firestone F560 worked very well on my 4A - wet & dry. Roger Very different tyre Roger radial as opposed to cross ply. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted July 12, 2015 Report Share Posted July 12, 2015 oops!!! there I go again. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Harvey Posted July 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2015 Hmmmm- so do I put the original 55 year old wires with mint Michelin X tyres back on my Italia for the IWE Survivor Class or leave the new wires and excellent Blockley radials. The spare is original unused Michelin and would be OK doing IC's 30mph in an emergency either way. Trouble is I wanted to drive it there flat out because it is so much fun to do. But I've ordered a sneaky new trailer if I decide to join the Concours Queens. Nobody will notice it parked around the corner. Decisions, decisions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Smith Posted July 12, 2015 Report Share Posted July 12, 2015 Best drive it there flat out Paul, otherwise you'll be ineligible for the 'Penrite Survivor Pot'........... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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