Kiwifrog Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 I found this on another site, the first I have ever heard of the TR250K. Does anyone know anymore ? Also this from google but not quite the same Alan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jersey Royal Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 Very Nice............ Motor Alan Cheers Guy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR NIALL Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 Very Nice............ Motor Alan Cheers Guy Yer one aint bad either . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 I think the bodywork is excellent, especially the bumpers - what styling. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Ashworth Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 (edited) Hi Alan, An interesting find which prompted me to dive into Google immediately in search of more information. Alas, I had to trawl through the same 400 girls as you did before I found the only version of the TR250K that seems to exist in the ether. It would be great to know more about this car though. I feel it must have existed based on Skodaman's other work, oh, and of course, those American looking racing chaps. Indeed Roger... excellent overriders. All the best. Dave. Edited November 25, 2011 by Dave Ashworth Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alec Pringle Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 One heck of a machine, another of Kas Kastner's involvements but one that had only a brief innings. I have some more detail somewhere on my shelves, I'll try and have a look for it. Cheers, Alec Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tony Millward Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 I managed to find some more pics of this machine. http://rides.webshots.com/album/28745055iJJourDTBa Tony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alan atkinson Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 This might be what you are looking for - http://www.kaskastner.com/cardriver_apr1968.pdf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alec Pringle Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 Hi Kiwifrog, your photos was taken in the pits, Sebring 12 Hours 1968. Kas Kastner on the right, next to him Jim Dittemore, and the second driver in race suit is Bob Tullius. The other two guys I've seen in Kastner pics of the period, probably race crew Jim Coan and Bob Avery ? As for the car, how much do you want to know ? Kastner needs no introduction. Brock had doubtless gained inspiration from working for Max Balchowski, the guy who pioneered shoehorning Detroit iron into a European sports car with his Swallow Doretti Buicks. Subsequently Brock worked for Carroll Shelby - who had followed Balchowski's lead with the AC Ace Ford V8, aka Cobra - and designed the Shelby coupe race body. I can't help thinking that the original idea was that of a TR4A Buick V8 - the 2.5 PI engine just happened to come along conveniently. Quite which configuration of PI system fueled the engine is another matter - accounts vary. The 250K was a prototype, in period raced just the once at Sebring, was shown around to great acclaim, and passed to Peter Brock, then through several hands and a colour change, deteriorating along the way, before being restored for its present owner's family. It is still raced occasionally. It went well enough, ahead of all but one of the 911s in qualifying, ten places and 7 seconds ahead of Paddy Hopkirk's legendary MGC that eventually finished a magnificent 10th. Top whack supposedly close on 160mph. In the race it was sidelined fairly early, either a wheel broke or suspension failure led to losing a wheel, depending which account you believe. In later years BL and all associated with the TR7 denied that the 250K had any influence whatsoever on the Wedge. Yeah right, and my name is Mustafa Kamel and I'm a blond Chinaman. Pull the other leg, it's got the chimes of Big Ben recorded on i-ball. I'd suggest that the 250K had a distinct influence, it was certainly acclaimed in the States. OK, it's probably impossible to underestimate the sheer incompetence of BL at the time in some areas, sales marketing and design to name but a few, but even so . . . . Do we really believe that a car that had the front cover of CAR and DRIVER, an important mag in the TR's primary market, was unknown to the BL design team ? Kastner was nobody's fool - GM had failed to master the casting of alloy blocks, the rights to the 215 V8 had been sold to Rover, no question the Brits could cast alloy, and Rover was linking with Triumph. So pioneer a TR V8, following an existing market trend, but with a lightweight alloy V8 not a Detroit iron heavyweight. Simple enough principle. As an aside, Kastner's efforts had at least some influence as one of the inspirations behind Jan Odor's efforts - with his initial ideas for a Le Mans TR7V8, that eventually and belatedly became the 1980 TR8 entry. I suppose one day I ought to research the topic properly, and pen some more detail for TR Action - maybe I'll get round to it as a treat for the rumoured new editor's consideration ? Cheers, Alec Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Fremont Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 Quite which configuration of PI system fueled the engine is another matter - accounts vary. I believe it was originally set up with triple 45DCOEs . Output was claimed to be 200+ BHP in The Triumph TR5/250 and TR6 Companion . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kiwifrog Posted November 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Thanks everyone for the enlightenment, this thread would make a good "cut and paste " for TR action. How do you guys renember so much ? I have problems renembering my kids names at times and I see them every day Alan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alec Pringle Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Hi Tom, I've seen it described as featuring triple Webers, or Lucas PI, or a hybrid system using Lucas PI into modified Weber bodies . . . one or two engines (not triumph) in the UK tried hybrid Lucas/Weber installations in the late 60s. Another really innovative feature was the cockpit adjustable rear boot spoiler - this was the start of moveable aerodynamic devices, which had been largely ignored since the Mercedes crash at 1955 Le Mans. Cheers, Alec Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stag powered Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 I know that my cousins wife has done some ,,,erm ,,, modelling work, but that looks very much like her in the picture! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
M. Pied Lourd Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 You can see it drive by at about 1:35 in this video (along with some other very cool cars including TS1) Cheers, M. Pied Lourd Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RandallD Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 (edited) This car has aged very well in my opinion - here are some pictures I took of it a few years ago Edited December 2, 2011 by RandallD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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