ianc Posted November 23, 2014 Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 Tomorrow (24th November) LIDL will be offering an electric cable winch for £49.99. Maximum load 125kg on its steel cable, but doubled to 250kg when hook with integrated pulley (supplied) is used. 500W motor, hand control and 3-year guarantee. Also will have ratchet or luggage strap set at £7.99, car boot organiser for £4.99, car half body cover at £5.99 (3 sizes from small to estate), snow chain set at £19.99 (I don't believe we are forecast a particularly hard winter this time), and LED warning lamp at £6.99 (magnetic base for clamping to bodywork - but you need steel bodywork, of course!). Ian Cornish Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eddie Cairns Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) A friend has the £50 hoist but if you use it to lift an engine you need to take the bonnet off plus you need a heavy structure to hang it from. My first thoughts is that a £150 engine crane is a better idea as it can be used in most places with the bonnet still on, I assume. On the other hand if you have say some scaffold handy then maybe it would suit your needs. Edited November 28, 2014 by Eddie Cairns Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alec Pringle Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 Anything you need an engine crane for will require the bonnet removing . . . . . The electric hoist will need something considerably heftier than a scaffold pole to span the car width . . . . but it's jolly useful if you have an RSJ across the garage, for example, and the LIDL version will make short work of hauling a car onto a trailer. Cheers Alec Quote Link to post Share on other sites
roy53 Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 If only it was 12V,trailer use Roy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
graeme Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 If only it was 12V,trailer use Roy At 500W, you could use a 12/230V inverter but that would probably cost more than the hoist. Cheers Graeme Quote Link to post Share on other sites
McMuttley Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 Definately looks like a 'joist puller downer' to me ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 and it wouldn't be the first time for that to happen. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Morrison Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 So are we saying this unit will pull a car onto a trailer? John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Motorsport Mickey Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 As long as the horizontal loading doesn't exceed 250kg and the winch can be secured somewhere and it can receive a 240v feed ( or inverter feed as Graeme pointed out). It pulled my builders dropside trailer with about 200kg up a slight incline. Mick Richards Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pfenlon Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 These hoists are amazing, I have drilled the garage floor, and fitted a small roller that the cable from the crane/hoist fits around, and I can then pull almost anything around the front and sides of the house, without removing the hoist from its ceiling position in the garage, even on a single fall of cable, mine has a pulley for going to 2 falls if necessary, but I haven't needed to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ntc Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 I wonder ? as my last car trailer had a super winch rated at 10 times that amount ie 2500 kg and I for one would not like to see the consequences if things went wrong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Morrison Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 Thanks guys, Think I'll have a punt at that kind of money. John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eddie Cairns Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) Anything you need an engine crane for will require the bonnet removing . . . . . The electric hoist will need something considerably heftier than a scaffold pole to span the car width . . . . but it's jolly useful if you have an RSJ across the garage, for example, and the LIDL version will make short work of hauling a car onto a trailer. Cheers Alec Alec Shows you the last time that I lifted an engine out and it was with a block and tackle on a scaffold but using two tubes to tie the block and tackle too, not a modern engine crane! Just worked it out, 1971 was the date. Austim Maxi engine and gearbox. Ok, a few years ago. Edited November 28, 2014 by Eddie Cairns Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alec Pringle Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 Hi Eddie, that would be the old E-series 1500 engine with the 5-speed in the sump ? A fair bit lighter than any TR engine and 'box then ! Two scaffold tubes for cope with the Maxi assembly probably means 3 or 4 for a TR ? Hi Neil, don't forget that trailer winches are usually rated for pulling a rolling wheeled vehicle onto a trailer, which is hugely different from heaving a vertical dead weight. An average chap shouldn't have a problem pushing a ton of TR to sufficient speed to start the blighter, but he's going to struggle lifting a 100kg steel block four or five feet into the air . . . . Cheers Alec Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Motorsport Mickey Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 Also remember if you're lifting 250kg ... "equal and reactive force" which means another 250kg of force being applied the other side of your winch fitting which combined means a solid mounting capable of 500kg imposed load is necessary for safety unless you want to look at it ruefully on the ground ! Mick Richards Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 A little tip - be very careful when unloading something down a slope. The other week I had to get a TR4A off my ramps. The car was on the level and attached to the winch. (The ramps sit level until a certain tipping point is reached). The winch needed some slack , apprx an 1" ata a time, to allow the car to be pushed backwards to the tipping point. When the car reached the tipping point it decided to tobogan down the slope ; the 1" of slack became about 12" as the coil had slackened off on the winch spool. No damage done ( the under pants were old anyway) but quite a shock. Had the cable snapped or the winch come off the ramp structure the car would have been across the road (the M25 is quite wide) in no time. So make sure when winching you are in total control of ALL the slack. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lebro Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 Went to Lidl's today still being unsure if I could justify buying one (as I have a perfectly good 1½ ton engine crane) Lucky for me they had all gone so decision made for me! Bob. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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