markaluge Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 Apologies if this topic has come up before, but I find the search function not to be the best. I am in the process of a full renovation of a 1958 TR3A including a LHD to RHD conversion. I purchased a RHD dash which I had blasted and powdered coated, and have then recovered in vinyl. The manual says that the windscreen washer knob goes between the glove box and centre console; and sure enough there is an aperture there. I looked up the appropriate part in the Moss catalogue, which I sent off for. When it arrived it says TR4/TR4A on the box and I recognise it from my TR4. I checked the part number and that was correct. The problem I have is that the aperture on the dash is too small for this item and I don’t want to be trying to make it bigger when I have already recovered it. Assuming (always dangerous I know) that at some point the dash had the washer knob and associated fitted, what did the original part look like and are they available? Apologies for the ramble, just a bit frustrating. Regards to all, Mark Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 (edited) How big is the hole in the dash? Have you poked a hole through the trim yet? Is it your intention to go down the concourse route with the finished car? If not consider going to an electric screen washer system https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bag-Type-Electric-Screen-Washer-Kit-210-mm-wide-x-290-mm-tall/123876601923?hash=item1cd79ef043:g:GPgAAOSw0EVgANJA&amdata=enc:AQAHAAAA8IVHCZ8IJNrq1ZXihOA4IZ2h2SHpZDe+/xsgReI98ISikTFDJShg9vOyY3MDNRyJL6Brkd6Y2qqJbS7zGKYsJ3GRgR2whU1p/ZN3djnpcjOhtjWk5MSOHQQzmNfcTVXfjQdq9pVL+fV/Frp08mgGp5X8+gt+boZet84KEzsR934HpnVwwetNu+ExZ66fGrujMHjP3Igm1R86DJHaVz72kr0mFhQl3JHSZWkb4NKVzOOmQsB+E0v9HkgH+H5pnj68GfLFFNVnK3MQFsx6xaSDZpM03gyf7KgO5sjgtALzmBCGi90pccbW+yUkNjSRJwK1zQ==|tkp:BFBMmvPW3oBh&pageci=f11046f0-4ed2-4c9c-b025-e2ad55a53996&redirect=mobile or just the bottle and pump. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bottle-Type-Electric-Screen-Washer-Kit-Length-135mm-Height-160mm-Width-70mm/123876602776?hash=item1cd79ef398:g:UgoAAOSwAH9gAPQq&amdata=enc:AQAHAAAA8LLn1xCu7b7vP0pHOo0W9GoM23UGOOfsHKBgqvcDNSs8kAPWGCGoc+3sc7aaQ2Y06cUngrkH+BYJZ2axPGgueE3+gDuqnOfa235NNVmSvTWJge9GQXat5s0KCal9bdjYNVI+/tM8MZPNt9iDbMGF+DMM3plJa8ngMOULLRj1IBK7Z3zDnD7gEA1zA//Re24KLc9LHRqnl/TWbzUxhomDE4HZ6jA1w6KI8HkdZ1iTdnuyIXeUObinZ+9BllhOcrBWTEeDSnR15fxwBgiEsoXFE9dxZ7gm9y+0JsMxW7zxE92LS00uX2Aosntw9+hWAPq5Ag==|tkp:BFBMmvPW3oBh&pageci=f56458d1-2cbe-4a7a-9437-c329828263da&redirect=mobile or use the basic manual pump if you have a bottle Like this. https://www.holden.co.uk/p/manual_washer_pump Edited October 23, 2022 by BlueTR3A-5EKT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markaluge Posted October 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 Many thanks for this information. I have fitted a bottle but not yet punched through the trim. Holdens is just down the road so I think I will take a drive out and look at the part. I sometimes have a beer with Jeremy Holden; unfortunately he sold the business at the start of the year, so no discount! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RAHTR4 Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 Hi Mark, You have a P.M. Regards, Richard Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iain Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 23 hours ago, markaluge said: Apologies if this topic has come up before, but I find the search function not to be the best. I am in the process of a full renovation of a 1958 TR3A including a LHD to RHD conversion. I purchased a RHD dash which I had blasted and powdered coated, and have then recovered in vinyl. The manual says that the windscreen washer knob goes between the glove box and centre console; and sure enough there is an aperture there. I looked up the appropriate part in the Moss catalogue, which I sent off for. When it arrived it says TR4/TR4A on the box and I recognise it from my TR4. I checked the part number and that was correct. The problem I have is that the aperture on the dash is too small for this item and I don’t want to be trying to make it bigger when I have already recovered it. Assuming (always dangerous I know) that at some point the dash had the washer knob and associated fitted, what did the original part look like and are they available? Apologies for the ramble, just a bit frustrating. Regards to all, Mark The washer, pump type, on my car is not in that position, it’s to the right of the dash below the heater switch. It’s the original still with its original tubing and jets. Perhaps position varied? Washers were an option, I think? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, iain said: Washers were an option, I think? Yes often dealer fitted. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iain Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 Thanks Stuart, just given mine a service, the jet non return valve ballbearing was stuck in the drivers side washer. A good dunking and soak in some malt vinegar and normal service is resumed :-) Iain Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markaluge Posted October 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 So I took the Holden version which fitted the aperture in the dash but doesn’t look very exciting. Cut it down by about a cm and then drilled the end to allow me to glue an old tonneau stud in it. The thread being perfect for the washer knob. I’m happy with the results. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Morrison Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 Nice Mark a satisfying solution John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Read Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 My 3A has a push button switch between the speedo and rev counter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Forest TR3A Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 Indeed they were often dealer fitted, but the "most original" type was the Trafalgar Washer, usually fitted with the knob without the "Trafalgar" writing (see pics). There is another type of washer pump (by Smiths?) which shows a knob like the knobs fitted to the center dash of the sidescreen TRs: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/255747057917?hash=item3b8bb668fd:g:aO0AAMXQ2UVQ4xaP&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoD4i69X1CEPHH3z5wH5ZcVozDc0Gfd6BNG%2FK6jHiVxmqG73pKckp7d4YtBlimYH4T9Cc9g8yhBR5CohQiIRjmxKdFHtaNJv8OWoSyk3U7Ds5jIEmDr5Yvr7713m8kWiUyflb61o8ZWrw0SlpBy13UnOZqG35e3BMOYpTRCAOpb1hWUunxd%2B5%2Fjs%2BsxkY2P%2FkqXRdozhiWuTuFgFtUuaJGV4%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR6zq9s-FYQ Tudor washers were merely used by BMC. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nobbysr Posted November 3, 2022 Report Share Posted November 3, 2022 have been trying to secure the correct screen washer pump knob for mine. It currently sports a cream Tudor knob which looks kind of odd all the best Steve Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Forest TR3A Posted November 4, 2022 Report Share Posted November 4, 2022 BTW: The knobs of Tudor, Trafalgar, Smiths etc. washer pumps are not interchangeable... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nobbysr Posted November 6, 2022 Report Share Posted November 6, 2022 (edited) hi Christian Yes I have discovered that, Oddly enough the MGA button (Top)fits the pump i have, so at least all of the knobs are the same colour The Tudor pump is offered as reproduction by Moss https://www.moss-europe.co.uk/washer-pump-windscreen-with-knob-27h9624.html?assoc=611389 which should fit a TR .. it would nice if someone could remanufacture the TR knob though cheers Steve Edited November 6, 2022 by Nobbysr missed info Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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