61TR3A Posted May 14, 2021 Report Share Posted May 14, 2021 My car's interior is allegedly original. The BMIHT certificate just says "blue". Near as I can tell, what I have is called "Shadow Blue". Is there any reference where I can see the actual color combos that were available and perhaps see if there were both Midnight Blue and Shadow Blue? (Disregard the edge cap as it was painted using vinyl paint by a previous owner but the seats are supposed to be original) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lebro Posted May 14, 2021 Report Share Posted May 14, 2021 My Rear seat is an original ST part (a lucky NOS find from ebay a few years ago) I can photograph it for you, but not sure that would help. It does look close to your picture above though. Bob. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boxofbits Posted May 14, 2021 Report Share Posted May 14, 2021 1 hour ago, 61TR3A said: My car's interior is allegedly original. The BMIHT certificate just says "blue". Near as I can tell, what I have is called "Shadow Blue". Is there any reference where I can see the actual color combos that were available and perhaps see if there were both Midnight Blue and Shadow Blue? (Disregard the edge cap as it was painted using vinyl paint by a previous owner but the seats are supposed to be original) The Moss parts manual provides info on the original seat colours for the TR3a as black, brown, red, grey, blue, Silverstone grey, beige and Targo purple with an option for all white leather no less. No mention of variations on the theme of blue or most others for that matter! Kevin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
61TR3A Posted May 14, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2021 50 minutes ago, Lebro said: My Rear seat is an original ST part (a lucky NOS find from ebay a few years ago) I can photograph it for you, but not sure that would help. It does look close to your picture above though. Bob. I'd appreciate that. Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foster461 Posted May 15, 2021 Report Share Posted May 15, 2021 My 1960 TR3a is also listed as built with blue interior. I opted for midnight blue trim with shadow blue carpet. The midnight blue is several shades darker than the midnight blue. The paint is powder blue. Basically a blue car. Stan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted May 15, 2021 Report Share Posted May 15, 2021 10 hours ago, boxofbits said: The Moss parts manual provides info on the original seat colours for the TR3a as black, brown, red, grey, blue, Silverstone grey, beige and Targo purple with an option for all white leather no less. No mention of variations on the theme of blue or most others for that matter! Kevin There is also the "Weave" trim too from TR2 on though Im not sure if was still available for a 3a Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
61TR3A Posted May 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2021 1 hour ago, stuart said: There is also the "Weave" trim too from TR2 on though Im not sure if was still available for a 3a Stuart. I have never seen the woven option. I think it looks great! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted May 15, 2021 Report Share Posted May 15, 2021 1 hour ago, stuart said: There is also the "Weave" trim too from TR2 on though Im not sure if was still available for a 3a Stuart. Yum Yum. Very period. Original carpets with the 'weave' or Continental pattern trim would have the same material used on their edge binding. We have one NOS piece of carpet with it. Peter W Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ian Vincent Posted May 15, 2021 Report Share Posted May 15, 2021 12 hours ago, boxofbits said: The Moss parts manual provides info on the original seat colours for the TR3a as black, brown, red, grey, blue, Silverstone grey, beige and Targo purple with an option for all white leather no less. No mention of variations on the theme of blue or most others for that matter! Kevin The build certificate for my 1959 TR3a states: Body Colour: British racing Green Trim Colour & Type: PRL Leather (which Bill Piggott interpreted as Pearl) Hood/Side Curtains Colour: White/- Does anyone else have any alternative interpretations for PRL? Rgds Ian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lebro Posted May 15, 2021 Report Share Posted May 15, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, 61TR3A said: I'd appreciate that. Thanks! Here are some photos of my original ST rear seat, click on to enlarge: Hope this helps. Bob. Edited May 15, 2021 by Lebro Quote Link to post Share on other sites
61TR3A Posted May 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2021 3 hours ago, Lebro said: Here are some photos of my original ST rear seat, click on to enlarge: Hope this helps. Bob. Thanks! That's my interior and it's definitely original so I'll have to find my Bill Piggott Triumphs book and see what he has to say. I think the book is in Vermont but I'm in FL so unless someone has one and can look it up, I'll have to find it and look into it myself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lebro Posted May 15, 2021 Report Share Posted May 15, 2021 I'm looking at Bill Piggott's book now, & "Blue" is as detailed as it gets I'm afraid. Bob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tony_C Posted May 15, 2021 Report Share Posted May 15, 2021 9 hours ago, stuart said: There is also the "Weave" trim too from TR2 on though Im not sure if was still available for a 3a Stuart. No Stuart, definitely not..... Story was (so l heard) the wife of Sir John got involved early on when the 2 was launched with the trims and ‘exotic’ colours but, that was all long gone by the time of the 3A..... Pinkish purple 2’s were coming out the factory to be hastily repainted as soon as the new owners took delivery....Basically, by the time of the 3A you could have a red, white or dark green one.. oh, and maybe a blue one .. if really‘ radical ’! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boxofbits Posted May 15, 2021 Report Share Posted May 15, 2021 8 hours ago, Ian Vincent said: The build certificate for my 1959 TR3a states: Body Colour: British racing Green Trim Colour & Type: PRL Leather (which Bill Piggott interpreted as Pearl) Hood/Side Curtains Colour: White/- Does anyone else have any alternative interpretations for PRL? Rgds Ian The CT magazine dropped through my letterbox today, and it happens to run a comprehensive article on the TR3/3a/3b. It does mention Green and BRG as body colours, as well as Pearl White, so the colour Pearl was in circulation at the factory, and could well have been used to describe the interior colour also? It also states duotone colours were available for Hardtop cars. Kevin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ralph Whitaker Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 22 hours ago, stuart said: There is also the "Weave" trim too from TR2 on though Im not sure if was still available for a 3a Stuart. Where would yo get that material from now if you wanted to restore to original. Personally I don`t like it, there is too much of it. If it were mine I would keep it on the dash but do the rest in tan. Ralph Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 16 hours ago, Tony_C said: No Stuart, definitely not..... Story was (so l heard) the wife of Sir John got involved early on when the 2 was launched with the trims and ‘exotic’ colours but, that was all long gone by the time of the 3A..... Pinkish purple 2’s were coming out the factory to be hastily repainted as soon as the new owners took delivery....Basically, by the time of the 3A you could have a red, white or dark green one.. oh, and maybe a blue one .. if really‘ radical ’! Sorry but thats not correct, the factory would still paint cars any colour you wanted through 3a production. if you were prepared to pay. Plus any Malines built cars were painted in a variety of colours too. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Ralph Whitaker said: Where would yo get that material from now if you wanted to restore to original. Personally I don`t like it, there is too much of it. If it were mine I would keep it on the dash but do the rest in tan. Ralph Its been unavailable for years Im afraid. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tony_C Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 39 minutes ago, stuart said: Sorry but thats not correct, the factory would still paint cars any colour you wanted through 3a production. if you were prepared to pay. Plus any Malines built cars were painted in a variety of colours too. Stuart. Here’s an extract from Bill Piggots book.. and the ‘Motor’, ‘Motor Sport’ and ‘Autosport’ road tests from the period all back this up: "Exterior colours standardised from May 1954" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 Ask Bill himself he will tell you the same as I have. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mike ellis Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 A rather more comprehensive list from Bill. There were also several other shades of blue and grey and as Stuart rightly says Standard-Triumph would paint the car in any other colour on request as an extra. TR3AColours.pdf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ckeithjordan Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 My 1962 TR3B had a blue interior similar to your 61 TR3A, and was I believe, "Shadow Blue." See photo of dismantled dash. Interior was original, but car had been repainted from powder blue to red. Also included is a book from a fellow forumite showing a vinyl/leather sample of "Midnight Blue" trim, which is darker. This came from a 1963 TR4 Spec book. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted May 17, 2021 Report Share Posted May 17, 2021 To throw something else in the mix…. My other TR3A (TS28***) is very rare in the original exterior colour which was Phantom Grey. When Alan Robinson was registrar he said it was the only one he had ever seen referenced in that colour. It was also originally no heater or overdrive with black vinyl, interior, soft top and sidescreens. It was delivered to Standard Triumph Motor Co. Hans Kooy told me he also had a LH TR3A in the same colour. Anyone else got that colour originally? Brother’s TR3A car was originally Silverstone Grey with matching hardtop and Silverstone grey interior. He still has the seats and hardtop in those colours. Peter W Quote Link to post Share on other sites
61TR3A Posted May 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2021 On 5/16/2021 at 7:53 AM, Tony_C said: Here’s an extract from Bill Piggots book.. and the ‘Motor’, ‘Motor Sport’ and ‘Autosport’ road tests from the period all back this up: "Exterior colours standardised from May 1954" Tony C, would you be so kind as to post the page(s) from Bill Piggott's book that shows all the interior colors for the TR3, TR3A AND TR4? Thnaks, Jeff Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tony_C Posted May 18, 2021 Report Share Posted May 18, 2021 Hi Jeff, pages 12 & 13 below ....note only side-screen (‘proper cars’ ) covered- not TR4... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Owen Posted May 18, 2021 Report Share Posted May 18, 2021 23 hours ago, BlueTR3A-5EKT said: To throw something else in the mix…. My other TR3A (TS28***) is very rare in the original exterior colour which was Phantom Grey. When Alan Robinson was registrar he said it was the only one he had ever seen referenced in that colour. It was also originally no heater or overdrive with black vinyl, interior, soft top and sidescreens. It was delivered to Standard Triumph Motor Co. Hans Kooy told me he also had a LH TR3A in the same colour. Anyone else got that colour originally? Brother’s TR3A car was originally Silverstone Grey with matching hardtop and Silverstone grey interior. He still has the seats and hardtop in those colours. Peter W I have found at least two gray TR's while browsing in the past, they're gone. This one doesn't look as dark as the ones I have seen before: https://www.smartmotorguide.com/L52362136 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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