John Morrison Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 Hi sage ones. Thinking about winter projects - yes really. I may be getting involved with remaking the bottom half of a bond Equipe Door, inside and out, inside is no problem, but the outer steel skin, it is a long door, maybe 1 mtre plus? and there will be no skins or for that matter good doors around, so I did wonder about the feasability of making a half skin, (Door is pretty flat) joddling or stepping the edge and then bonding this step inside onto the original cut door. I seem to remember an episode of Car SOS, where a MK 2 Jag Door was reskinned up to the waistline? with abonded new section. John. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 minute ago, John Morrison said: Hi sage ones. Thinking about winter projects - yes really. I may be getting involved with remaking the bottom half of a bond Equipe Door, inside and out, inside is no problem, but the outer steel skin, it is a long door, maybe 1 mtre plus? and there will be no skins or for that matter good doors around, so I did wonder about the feasability of making a half skin, (Door is pretty flat) joddling or stepping the edge and then bonding this step inside onto the original cut door. I seem to remember an episode of Car SOS, where a MK 2 Jag Door was reskinned up to the waistline? with abonded new section. John. I thought Bond used Herald doors. Peter W Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DaveB66 Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 Hi John As Peter says the Bond doors are from a Herald/Vitesse. Have a Look at Canley Classics they do new complete skins and repair panels (https://www.canleyclassics.com/?catalogue=triumph-herald-13/60&diagram=triumph-herald-13/60-door-assembly), probably easier than making from scratch. All the best Dave Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Morrison Posted August 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 Thanks Guys, but I don't think thats correct, wish it was. The Herald/Vitese has a swage line about six inches from the bottom, Bond doors are flat. John. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie D Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 (edited) Early Bonds did use the Herald doors. Later ones had a swageless outter skin, but may well have used a Herald inner skin and all the associated gubbins. Charlie. Edited August 5, 2020 by Charlie D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Morrison Posted August 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 Thanks Charlie, these are definately flat throughout. John. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jerrytr5 Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 3 hours ago, John Morrison said: joddling or stepping the edge and then bonding this step inside onto the original cut door. I think that's a fairly standard way to repair door skins when the bottom has rotted. Certainly at least one of mine was done that way. Jerry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SeanF Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, John Morrison said: Hi sage ones. Thinking about winter projects - yes really. I may be getting involved with remaking the bottom half of a bond Equipe Door, inside and out, inside is no problem, but the outer steel skin, it is a long door, maybe 1 mtre plus? and there will be no skins or for that matter good doors around, so I did wonder about the feasability of making a half skin, (Door is pretty flat) joddling or stepping the edge and then bonding this step inside onto the original cut door. I seem to remember an episode of Car SOS, where a MK 2 Jag Door was reskinned up to the waistline? with abonded new section. John. Hi John, I can't comment on the Bonding, but I replaced the bottom of one of my TR6 doors this way. Used a piece of 20 gauge steel, joddled the edge, shoved it up underneath the existing edge and welded. I formed the foldback edges with a couple of 90 degree steels in the vice. There was some filler required but not loads, and the first picture is of how it looks today. Hope this helps. Sean Edited August 5, 2020 by SeanF pic order Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stillp Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 Nicely done Sean! Pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 6 hours ago, John Morrison said: making a half skin, (Door is pretty flat) joddling or stepping the edge and then bonding this step inside onto the original cut door. John. Hi John, when you say Bond do you mean adhesive bond - as in gluing. If so how are you going to go about it. ? Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rodbr Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 (edited) Hi John, I have used the two part panel bonding glue and it works a treat but it isn't all that cheap. It should be fine on a long joint as you propose. Give me a call to discuss. Rod Edited August 5, 2020 by Rodbr Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jerrytr5 Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 2 hours ago, RogerH said: Hi John, when you say Bond do you mean adhesive bond - as in gluing. If so how are you going to go about it. ? Roger I read 'bonding' as welding - must read things more carefully. Jerry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 3 hours ago, RogerH said: Hi John, when you say Bond do you mean adhesive bond - as in gluing. If so how are you going to go about it. ? Roger Not Redux then.... https://www.carcolourservices.co.uk/product/3m-panel-bonding-adhesive-08115/ I'd probably use JB Weld https://www.jbweld.com/product/j-b-weld-professional-size Peter W Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Morrison Posted August 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 Thanks all, yes it was glueing as opposed to welding, looking for a quicker job on a wide door, Rod, I'll be in touch - thanks. John. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 Hi John, if you haven't researched the process yet here is a starter https://www.smooth-on.com/page/preparation-surfaces-epoxy-adhesive-bonding/ I would have thougkt a clean with Jenolite (Phosphoric acid) would have been part of the process. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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