Panch Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 So the car's been back on the road for nearly a couple of months, and I've had the bonnet open and closed a lot in that time... as you can imagine! So why, suddenly, since last weekend, has the angled end of the bonnet stay started lifting up over the brake reservoir and catching on the top of it when closing the bonnet?? I've tried the action slowly, and I can't see anything loose, or bent.. so I'm confused.. why was it working perfectly a week ago and now catching?? Anyone else come across this before and what's the fix please? It's a UK spec CP car, so it's not to do with it being a US import.. Thanks.. Panch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 Hi Panch, has the buffer dropped off #35 https://www.moss-europe.co.uk/shop-by-model/triumph/tr5-6/body-chassis/bonnet-fittings/front-body-fittings-tr5-tr250.html Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nigel Triumph Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 Or could it be that one end of the stay is detached, probably the lower end that runs in the channel above the o/s wheel arch? Nigel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Panch Posted July 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 Sorry Roger, I should have said, it's a TR6 not a TR5..! I don't seem to remember ever having a buffer on though?? Sorry Nigel, I'm not sure I'm getting what you mean.. maybe I should take a picture of what I've got.. might be easier. . Panch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waldi Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 Hi Panch, the TR6 also has a rubber buffer, my old one was old and brittle. Regards, Waldi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 Hi Panch, #36 https://www.moss-europe.co.uk/shop-by-model/triumph/tr5-6/body-chassis/bonnet-fittings/bonnet-boot-lid-fittings-tr6.html Same item Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Panch Posted July 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 Ah interesting... thank you guys... I definitely haven't had one before which is probably why I didn't realise it wasn't there!! Panch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 Hi Panch, can you supply a photo of the area of concern in the engine bay. Nobody else has reported an interference between the stay and anything close by. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
colin3511 Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 Is the stay straight? It happened to me with a slightly bent stay. Colin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Panch Posted July 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 So, looking again, I do have the rubber stop in place, and the issue is still happening. Colin - I've check the stay, and yes, it is straight... in fact, I've tried to be it a little the 'other way' in order to move it away from the brake reservoir when the bonnet is shut, and that hasn't helped either! It's a bit hard to photograph Roger, but see if this makes sense! Photo 1 - bonnet open showing stay and rubber Photo 2 - bonnet closing with stay moving backwards Photo 3 - bonnet nearly closed showing stay just under the brake reservoir Photo 4 - bonnet on catch showing stay pushing on underside of the reservoir If I pushed the bonnet shut from the position in Photo4, there's a loud 'clonk' as the stay forces itself around the side of the reservoir and the 90deg hook end sits on top on the brake reservoir! Does that make sense? I'm surprised that no-one has encountered this? and as I say, it was working absolutely fine a couple of weeks ago, so struggling to understand what's changed?? Panch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 Hi Panch, the photo's are good. Has the stay been shortened ? Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John L Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 (edited) I think the new rubber pads are not correct, this is what's mine like, it has a groove to hold the rod that the new don't. This is more what it should like its from MGB #34 https://www.moss-europe.co.uk/shop-by-model/mg/mgb-c-v8/body-chassis/bonnet-fittings/bonnet-fittings-mgb.html Hope this may help John Edited July 6, 2019 by John L Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ntc Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 How is it fitted at the bonnet? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Panch Posted July 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 Roger - No, the stay is standard length, although someone has suggested shortening it to resolve the problem, but I'm reluctant to do that as it will reduce the opening on the bonnet when it's up... It is attached at the bonnet end with a nut and washer onto the standard bolt which sticks out sidewards as per the pics in the Moss catalogue above. John, that's a really interesting shot... now I wonder if the rubber has actually been fitted on mine correctly then. The slit in the rubber has been slid onto the metal bracket, whereas I wonder if it should actually be screwed below the bracket as shown in your picture? Obviously the slit is much narrower though and it just a 'slit' rather than shaped to house the bar so wouldn't fit the stay bar through it without modification. Has anyone else fitted a 'modern' rubber as supplied by Moss/Rimmer and had the same issue I wonder... and is mine fitted correctly? Panch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Panch Posted July 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 Looking at the link to the MGB one, maybe I should try that... but then what is everyone else with a '6' doing? I can't be the only one with this problem surely?? Panch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AndyR100 Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 The early MGB one is interesting, I have been trying to sort out rattle on my 4 for ages, I think I’ll give that a a try - thank you for the pointer John .......Andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR NIALL Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 (edited) Panch to me your Bar looks wrong reasons below Bar should be 500mm Long,its thickness is between 8 and 8.5mm and the return on the end is 28mm. Mine has a slight curvature to it but unsure if that feature is original. Ill try and add some Pics below but if they dont appear PM me you Email and I’ll send them on. The system won’t allow me any more Photos so if you need them PM me. JohnL sorry but your Rubber is on wrong. L Edited November 5, 2019 by TR NIALL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John L Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 @TR If you think the rubber is wrong or fitted wrong perhaps can you give a picture of what it should be then, hasn't anybody got an original they could post a picture please. Were's Saffi? John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waldi Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 Here is a link to Ed’s masterpiece: I had the same rubber on my car before I started the restoration. It folds around the welded bracket and is secured with a screw. I have bought a new one which I still need to fit. My bonnet stay is also slightly bent sidewards like Nials stay above. Waldi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tr6fan Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 I had this-just needed to bend the stay slightly to fix it completely. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ntc Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 You don't need to bend the rod only just the flat at the bonnet very little as it closes it will go in the right place. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 17 hours ago, AndyR100 said: The early MGB one is interesting, I have been trying to sort out rattle on my 4 for ages, I think I’ll give that a a try - thank you for the pointer John .......Andy Hi Andy, cover the stay with black heat shrink sleeving it will last a good year before needing replacing. The elongated hole in the bracket, which the stay passes through, can have some rubber sleeve added to it. Rattles gone Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tr6fan Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 1 hour ago, ntc said: You don't need to bend the rod only just the flat at the bonnet very little as it closes it will go in the right place. That makes sense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AndyR100 Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 57 minutes ago, RogerH said: Hi Andy, cover the stay with black heat shrink sleeving it will last a good year before needing replacing. The elongated hole in the bracket, which the stay passes through, can have some rubber sleeve added to it. Rattles gone Roger Thanks Roger, I havnt tried that so will give it a go as well ......Andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Panch Posted July 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 Thanks everyone... bent the stay and now works perfectly... It feels a little bit of a bodge job in terms of a fix, but I guess I should be used to that by now with the TR... I'm guessing there's some adjustment on the spring too in order to get the bonnet to 'pop' open better? I've checked all my alignments and the latch sits central when it goes down, but only pops up a little, rather than all the way to the latch stop when I pull the bonnet release handle? Panch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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