foster461 Posted March 26, 2017 Report Share Posted March 26, 2017 Found this in a collection of literature donated to our club by a previous club member. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don H. Posted March 26, 2017 Report Share Posted March 26, 2017 I think "Temple of Triumph" now has a full set of the TSOA newsletters available online, Stan. (And I have a nearly complete set scanned but not OCR from another source). They're a gold mine of cool info, aren't they? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iain Posted March 26, 2017 Report Share Posted March 26, 2017 Hi Don Do you have a link for this resources? Thanks Iain Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foster461 Posted March 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2017 Apologies for the post title. TR's are old but not six years before the battle of Hastings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alec Pringle Posted March 26, 2017 Report Share Posted March 26, 2017 Now here's an interesting comparison . . . . . That $1995 for a TR in 1960 would equate to $16488 in 2016, that's US inflation rates for you . . . . . in contrast, UK inflation has resulted in a £1995 purchase in 1960 costing £41855 in 2016 . . . . . Cheers Alec Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foster461 Posted March 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2017 (edited) Hi Don Do you have a link for this resources? Thanks Iain Here you go Iain. They have the 1960 tour announcement but I dont see the doc that I posted. I may have missed it due to the usual male malady. http://www.templeoftriumph.org/tsoa/tsoa.html Stan Edited March 26, 2017 by foster461 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don H. Posted March 26, 2017 Report Share Posted March 26, 2017 Yeah, they might be missing a few bits, Stan -- especially things that came by direct mail outside of the regular newsletter. I may have that (or similar) in my stash. The ToT guys have done the best job of comoling the full set of TSOA newsletters, and a few people with private collections have put aside turf concerns to share with them. I'll bet they'd welcome your contribution. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foster461 Posted March 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2017 Now here's an interesting comparison . . . . . That $1995 for a TR in 1960 would equate to $16488 in 2016, that's US inflation rates for you . . . . . in contrast, UK inflation has resulted in a £1995 purchase in 1960 costing £41855 in 2016 . . . . . Cheers Alec $16k would get you a nice entry level car today too like a Ford Fiesta Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iain Posted March 26, 2017 Report Share Posted March 26, 2017 Brilliant thanks Stan:-) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ben's wife Posted March 26, 2017 Report Share Posted March 26, 2017 Love seeing old docs like this, thanks for posting! Stupid question time , but is a 'grand touring TR3' one which came fitted with the hard top (hence seeing the soft top kit in optional extras), or is it something else? Vicky. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don H. Posted March 26, 2017 Report Share Posted March 26, 2017 The Grand Touring kit was, IIRC, created to homologate the TR3 for one of the classes in international rallying back in the day. It was hardtop, fixed side curtains (identifiable with a different piece of bright trim along the door curve), and outside door handles (before they were standard). There are a few photos out there of the kit, including a few original ads if my memory's not wrong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ben's wife Posted March 26, 2017 Report Share Posted March 26, 2017 Thanks, Don! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DavidBee Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 True, the full set of TSOA Newsletters, published in New York, is available online. And I was able to glean several facts from them. But does anyone happen to have a copy of the issue of Road & Track, which published a report of the first, 1957, Rally? (It was "roneoed", meaning cyclostyled, or photocopied, and included in a TSOA Newsletter, but is not included online.). "The American Triumph Rally of Europe", Road & Track, Vol. 9 No. 1, October 1957. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Forest TR3A Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 Just found this short article in ESQUIRE, Feb. 1959, on the Rally of Europe 1958, with some nice pics: https://classic.esquire.com/article/1959/02/01/the-great-european-driveaway Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mick Forey Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 I have scanned through various editions of the TSOA Newsletter announcing the rallies but they all referred to detailed itineraries being attached, which they are not in the temple of triumph archive. Does anybody have any or know where I can get them from? Mick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mike ellis Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 Mick, I don't have the actual itineraries but I do have quite a bit of information which may help. It may take a while to dig it out so give me a week or so and I will see what I can find. Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mick Forey Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 Mike, thanks for your help. I was thinking of re-creating one, might be fun. TRs at the Folie Bergere! Mick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iain Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 Sounds like a fun idea Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MilesA Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 On 9/24/2020 at 11:00 AM, Mick Forey said: Mike, thanks for your help. I was thinking of re-creating one, might be fun. TRs at the Folie Bergere! Mick Mick If this was the European rally that US purchasers of TRs went on, I did once have a note of the itinerary of destinations but cannot find it at present. Somewhere online there is a promotional film / home movie of one of the rallies. I suspect that I found a reference to it on the Forum. As I was watching it a couple of years ago I simply jotted down the various destinations, just in case...! From recollection it was a very ambitious tour with 30+(?) towns and cities visited across Europe. If you can track down the film, that might give you a start. 'Don H' might be able to assist. Will post if I find anything. Miles Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mick Forey Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 Found this excellent film posted on here in 2017. Sadly no sound or itinerary. Mick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MilesA Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 As the weather was so filthy on Sunday, I spent most of the day tidying (ransacking) my study to try and find my note of the rally destinations and then searching the internet for the film from which I had taken them. No success and I started to think I had imagined the whole exercise. Hoping to prove that I had not completely lost my marbles, I had another go at interrogating the internet between Zoom meetings today. Success! The information can be found in the archived newsletters of TSOA material on this site: https://vintagetriumphregister.org/tsoa-archive/ The ones you need to look at are January 1957, February 1958, March 1958, June 1958, March 1959, June 1959, January 1960, May 1960, October 1960 and March 1962. Not all the newsletters appear to be archived so there are some gaps in information. In summary: There was a tour each year 1957 - 1962 !957 - 1961 involved TR3 and 3As; 1962 TR4s They were accompanied by a company service van and a couple of mechanics. The first tour itinerary was from 04 May to 21 May (stopovers in bold): London Airport > Bull Inn Gerrards Cross > Stratford-upon-Avon (!) > Coventry, Canley factory > Dover > Calais > Dunkirk >Ostend > Brussels > Liege Aachen > Koblenz > Darmstadt > Wurzburg > Nornberg > Regensburg > Passau > Linz > Baden > Vienna > Tyrol > Innsbruck > Arlberg Pass > Feldkirch > Zurich > Lucerne > Susten Pass > Interlaken > Berne > Lausanne > Dole > Dijon > Paris > Boulogne > Dover > London. (I note that in relation to Paris it is stated that "...special arrangements can be made to visit some of the popular night spots"!) The itinerary changed for 1958, and included Spain, the French Riviera, Italy and Switzerland. In 1959, there were 3 tours: two to southern Europe and one to Scotland, Scandinavia and northern Europe. Cannot find itineraries for 1960 One southern and one northern European itinerary for 1961 The proposed 1962 rally was to England, Belgium, Germany, Austria, Yugoslavia, Italy, Monaco, Switzerland, France and England Also, a 46 minute film of the 1957 rally was produced and available from Standard Public Relations, 45 Rockefeller Plaza, New York. A 28.5 minute version was shown on TV across the US. Pretty sure it was one of these I must have seen and from which I noted the route a few years ago. Try as I might, I cannot find it on the internet now. Do have a look at the newsletters - they are a great read with some interesting, period photos. It would be really good to see the publicity film though. For me the 1958 route sounds particularly attractive. But most importantly... I am not losing my marbles! Miles Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mick Forey Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 Hi Miles, thank you so much for finding the right newsletters. They certainly covered the miles and stayed in some wonderful places. Mick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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