mandarawessels Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 Hi All, Just wanted opinion on asking price for this TR4. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181776968346?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 Tx John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 Hi All, Just wanted opinion on asking price for this TR4. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181776968346?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 Tx John Too much with the black underbonnet and in the boot, also some poor detailing and panel fit. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mandarawessels Posted June 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 Thanks Stuart. what would be a reasonable price to pay for that car then? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peejay4A Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 The seller has a strangely similar name to your handle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mandarawessels Posted June 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 Yes Pete, it is me. just wondering why there seems to bee almost zero interest... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
McMuttley Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 Drive it round to Shortlands John, I'll look after it for you ( for free ) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
graeme Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 John, Sorry to say that the black underbonnet and boot will put most people off. Despite your best intentions it usually means that somebody is covering something up. Cheers Graeme Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mandarawessels Posted June 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 Bummer What could i get for it? Need some cash..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gary Flinn Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 If it was a TR5 you would have them queuing up! Why not try the Car & Classic Website? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alec Pringle Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 Personally I prefer the black underbonnet and boot interior, practical and sensible compared to the more usual body paint finish. That's a minority opinion of course, and the average classic car buyer seems to prefer shiny gloss paint under his or her bonnet and boot. If this TR4 is as decent underneath as it looks on top, I'd have thought it should fetch £15K ish, but somehow I doubt £17.5K . . . . . No criticism of the car as such, simply my personal opinion of how the market currently seems to work. Cheers Alec Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mandarawessels Posted June 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 Personally I prefer the black underbonnet and boot interior, practical and sensible compared to the more usual body paint finish. That's a minority opinion of course, and the average classic car buyer seems to prefer shiny gloss paint under his or her bonnet and boot. If this TR4 is as decent underneath as it looks on top, I'd have thought it should fetch £15K ish, but somehow I doubt £17.5K . . . . . No criticism of the car as such, simply my personal opinion of how the market currently seems to work. Cheers Alec I think you are spot on Alec, and yes underneath it is as neat as on top. Guess I'l have to lower the price. Thanks all for the input. cheers John. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR 2100 Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 (edited) John, Not that I'm looking to buy a TR4 - have two already, but if I was, then what would concern me is: You seem to have done most of the work yourself, but a buyer has no idea of your expertise. Not that TR4s are that complicated that they can't be restored at home, but there are many pitfalls and plenty of areas to get things a bit wrong, especially if it's your first TR4 restoration. Is it? As Stuart has pointed out, there are a number of smallish details that aren't quite right, and this would lead me to be concerned about everything that is not visible from the photos. I don't know what level of response the Classified Ads get but I suspect it may not be so great. Any responses are likely to attract chancers who will offer way below the asking price. If you can post a couple of photos of the restoration in progress, that may help explain the extent of work done. When all said and done, £15k is a very low price for a genuine not and bolt rebuild. So low that it would arouse my suspicions. AlanR Edited June 26, 2015 by TR 2100 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mandarawessels Posted June 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 Thanks Alan, Its up for sale for 16500 now. you say some things don't look ''quite right''. could you point them out to me? I have restored cars all my life but most admit this is the only Tr4. It has been a -literally-nut and bolt resto. If I hadn't taken on another project I wouldnt sell it. I love restoring cars more then I love driving them.... wish I had bigger garage..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR 2100 Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 Thanks Alan, Its up for sale for 16500 now. you say some things don't look ''quite right''. could you point them out to me? TR owners on this Forum are a polite bunch (maybe some exceptions!) and they don't like to knock someone elses restoration efforts. The quality of the advert (details provided, quality of photos) leaves a lot to be desired and will not attract someone who is looking for a TR4 in the price range of your asking price. Have sent you a PM. AlanR Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Geko Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 (edited) knock the price down to 15K and be ready to start from there, put the bumper and original seats back on, connect the heater, remove the steering wheel skin, change the horns, delete any reference to "bolts&nuts" and "meticulous" restoration on the ad. and close that driver door properly if you can.... Check the competitors including this one has been online for more than one year: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1965-Triumph-TR4a-IRS-Surrey-Top-Roadster-Original-UK-Car-/361328251210?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item5420d7914aand the condition of this one which seems fairly priced: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1963-Triumph-TR4-Rare-White-Dash-Model-Convertible-OVER-DRIVE-RHD-UK-CAR-/151661158323?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item234fb59fb3 Edited June 27, 2015 by Geko Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KOB Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 I read this thread with a great deal of interest, especially the mis guided view that "professional" restoration is more reliable than an amateur job. Of course incompetent amateurs can make a real hash of things, but then so can and do professionals. Next to my own factory there is a classic car workshop that specialises in MG's however all marques pass through. yesterday the owner of the workshop attracted my attention to a very interesting "professionally" restored TR5 that the owner had purchased last year for 45K. It was worthy of the worst amateur resto project of the year award. I also know of a regular contributor on these pages who is a professional who did some work on a TR belonging to a pal of mine earlier this year. The person concerned will be lucky if a County Court summons is not served. My point is that many amateurs are every bit as competent as someone who makes a living from older car work and that to suggest that the vehicle in question here has not been exposed to such skill is completely wrong, And for a contributor to claim that a TR4 can not be restored at home is quite simply nonsense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mandarawessels Posted July 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 Well, thank you KOB for your moral support. some comments left me a bit miffed and my pride is hurt. The car is going to a 'loving' new home tomorrow, to make room for yet another project(ST 90 Coupe) Enjoy your TR's everyone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alec Pringle Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 Well done John, and hopefully you've achieved the price you aimed for. If it's any consolation, I fail to understand some of the commentary too. Amateurs and professionals alike can produce excellent work on occasion, and at other times amateurs and professionals alike can fall short of the desired standard. There's no substitute for the Mk1 eyeball, talented indeed is the man who can see it all from photographs . . . . but as already noted, you could do yourself a considerable favour by concentrating on good clear photos and plenty of them. As an example, have a look at the two bikes I mention in this post http://www.tr-register.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/52720-big-bike-anyone-mt-01-fat-bob-must-go/ Between them they generated over 4000 page views and over 200 watchers. Sunbeam Talbot 90 coupe sounds like fun - lovely old cars. Coincidentally, whilst going through some of my Humber spares this afternoon I turned up a small ST nave plate badge - some Humbers and Sunbeam Talbots shared the same nave plate, wheel trim if you prefer. If you'd like it you're welcome, they're perhaps not too common ? Cheers Alec Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mandarawessels Posted July 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 Alec, I sent you a pm. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pfenlon Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 Alec, I sent you a pm. Just sent you a PM Alan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR 2100 Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 I read this thread with a great deal of interest, especially the mis guided view that "professional" restoration is more reliable than an amateur job. Of course incompetent amateurs can make a real hash of things, but then so can and do professionals. Was just looking through the thread to see what prompted KOB's comment. Must have been a post deleted? AlanR Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mandarawessels Posted July 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 Alan, maybe he managed to read your pm to me.... only joking. cheers john. PS car is with new owner now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alec Pringle Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 Badge will be on its way John - decent enough nick, and probably about as common as a virgin in a knocking shop. You don't owe me anything for it - but next time you see a collecting tin for those poor bloody displaced families in the Middle East, stick a few bob in, please. What goes around, comes around . . . . . Cheers Alec Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mandarawessels Posted July 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 Thanks ever so much, Alec. I will put some money in the tin, promise cheers, John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR 2100 Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Alan, maybe he managed to read your pm to me.... only joking. cheers john. AlanR Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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