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Hello to all,

New on here and looking for some advice please.

 

Can anyone recommend much better headlights (preferably with integral side light) for a TR4A irs with -ve earth and alternator?

 

Also, I KNOW it's been said on here that the original heater is ok with a backflush etc but I can't be doing with mere modest improvements... I'd like a real blast of proper HEAT for top down in the winter. Can anyone recommend a good heater/fan combination to give me that please?

Thank you in anticipation/hope.

Regards,

Saggy

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Hi Saggy??

 

Welcome to best forum for TRs.

 

I have fitted the Clayton three speed heater to my 4A and it is a significant improvement over the original. It fits into the original casing with slight mods for clearance of the inlet/outlet pipes. I only use the low and high speed on the fan which can be achieved using a two speed switch as a suitable three speed switch is not available.

 

Clayton are very classic friendly and helpful, link here:

 

http://www.claytoncc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=37

 

Cheers

 

Graeme

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For headlights, I would recommend the Wipac quad optics. I run them with higher-power bulbs (plus relays/new wiring) on night rallies in in Canada, not totally legal btw, but the general feedback from others on the forum is good even with UK-legal wattage.

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Hello and welcome.

 

Headlamps are not polarity sensitive.

You can get side-in-head units from Moss and all the major sellers, also SVC etc.

If you plan to fit bigger bulbs then a relay is essential and probably new wiring. A relay is a good idea anyway as it will protect the switch. I ran 100/80 bulbs in my hot hatches for 12 years with no aggro from plod, just make sure they're properly aimed.

 

I put the Clayton alloy element in my 6. As Graeme said, it pretty much fits the casing. I kept the standard 2-speed fan, but I have since read that the MGB squirrel-cage fan will also fit. There was an improvement in output but not quantum. You may do better with a DIY radiator blind to ensure the engine gets properly hot.

A Breezebreaker will greatly reduce the gale blowing from behind.

And wear lots of layers. tongue.gif

 

Ivor

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Revington does replacement heaters which are, I believe, 3-speed and are said to be really fierce! I don't imagine they are cheap, but Neil has a reputation for engineering things properly.

As with lamps, heaters are not polarity sensitive.

Ian Cornish

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Revington's heater upgrade is excellent. It really does provide a "blast" of air.

 

I kept the original heater switch as a "Master" on-off and then routed the speed control knob into the glove box. The relays I mounted on a piece of perspex as a single "assembly" which I then squirreled-away under the dash out of sight.

 

Result is a powerful 3-speed fan and very good heat output (new style heater matrix included in the kit) plus original looks.

 

However, it requires complete disassembly of the heater casing, which means taking it out of the car.

 

I suspect that when Triumph built the TR4 they started with the heater casing and built on/ around it as it's just about the least accessible thing in the car/ on earth.

 

Enjoy,

Ade

 

Photos available of switch/ relays if required

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Phew! What a nice welcome on here?!

And what a mine of useful information!

 

I think that's my first questions sorted in one hit.

Well done and thank you to one and all.

 

Revingtons are my closest so I'll speak to Neil and also check out Claytons.

I note the point about the windbreak as well.

 

On the lights, someone elsewhere suggested Wipac Freeform with Osram bulbs...

anyone have any experience of these? (or indeed any other pearls of wisdom generally?)

I'll check out some prices on these these things as well.

 

I may have some other Q's as I progress with trying to get it all back together

but for the moment many thanks again and regards to all.

Saggy

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Ade,

Sorry forgot to ask.. if you do have any photos of the switches/relays and wiring diagram

that would be very helpful too.

Thanks

 

 

Hi Saggy,

 

I have various wiring diagrams for TR4A (or most other TRs).

 

They are typically too big to send over this forum connection, but I can email them to you if you provide email address.

Or email me on tony@thomson-of-marlow.co.uk and I'll send them via reply.

 

Welcome to the TR Register Forum.

 

TT

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Hello to all,

New on here and looking for some advice please.

 

Can anyone recommend much better headlights (preferably with integral side light) for a TR4A irs with -ve earth and alternator?

 

Also, I KNOW it's been said on here that the original heater is ok with a backflush etc but I can't be doing with mere modest improvements... I'd like a real blast of proper HEAT for top down in the winter. Can anyone recommend a good heater/fan combination to give me that please?

Thank you in anticipation/hope.

Regards,

Saggy

 

 

See the alternator threads in TR2/3 forum.

Moss London are offering HID headlamp conversions for H4 headlamp units (HID are the infuriatingly bright white lights the cretin in the BMW behind has)

Heaters are from Clayton and I guess Revington has added a fitting kit. If you are near Clayton go and talk to them with your heater in your hand (and some cash)

 

Cheer

Peter W

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The Clayton heater fan motor is polarity sensitive, because it uses a solid state controller. If you reverse the polarity, you will fry the innards. I have positive ground, so I had to reverse the wiring, and ran the positive wire through the two-speed switch to ground. So be careful. The Revington kit is a Clayton, so I dealt directly with Clayton. They were very helpful on the phone, and their pricing was better.

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RE: Better headlights. I changed to 100/80watt halogen bulbs nearly 20 yrs ago and have had no problems. Needless to say they are a great improvement! I did fit a relay and an alternator though.

RE: Heater. I replaced the matrix with a new, orignal design one many years ago. (I don't think upgraded ones were available then). What a pain! After removing the 'H' piece I do remember that removing the glove box gave much better access to a recalcitrant third bolt holding the unit it place!

Draughts: Obviously a good fitting hood and door seals, but thick cardboard cut outs pushed into place over the dashboard air vents work wonders too, simple and cheap!

Ian Evans

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