Steppenwolf Posted March 1, 2021 Report Share Posted March 1, 2021 I wonder if anyone saw this TR250 for auction at Car and Classic. I haven't seen any post on it in the forum. Seemed to go very cheap. https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/auctions/1967-triumph-tr250-pg2PP4?utm_campaign=Targeted | TR250 Final Push | 28%2F02%2F21&utm_term=01ER05AF56VKCWZ0Z8HBBE6Y62&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Viewed%2FWatched%2FBid - Triumph TR250 (405)&utm_content=View the full auction listing&_ke=eyJrbF9jb21wYW55X2lkIjogIlg1UUx4UyIsICJrbF9lbWFpbCI6ICJhLnAuai53ZWJiQGJ0aW50ZXJuZXQuY29tIn0%3D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted March 1, 2021 Report Share Posted March 1, 2021 It was a bit rough Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steppenwolf Posted March 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2021 Maybe, but I saw a TR5 at an auction a few years ago go for £23k (not including buyer's premium) when it was a non-runner and most of the panels were rotten and the interior was wrecked by pigeon droppings and mouse damage. But I suppose someone bought it for the VIN plate - and it was a genuine UK TR5. Who knows. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted March 1, 2021 Report Share Posted March 1, 2021 28 minutes ago, Steppenwolf said: Maybe, but I saw a TR5 at an auction a few years ago go for £23k (not including buyer's premium) when it was a non-runner and most of the panels were rotten and the interior was wrecked by pigeon droppings and mouse damage. But I suppose someone bought it for the VIN plate - and it was a genuine UK TR5. Who knows. Genuine TR5 trumps TR5 badged TR250 by a fair margin Im afraid. Plus the chance to properly restore yourself over a poorly restored car where your going to have to redo most also makes a lot of difference Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
roy53 Posted March 1, 2021 Report Share Posted March 1, 2021 But in the end it is a 250 and not a 5 regardless of badges Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boxofbits Posted March 1, 2021 Report Share Posted March 1, 2021 43 minutes ago, Steppenwolf said: Maybe, but I saw a TR5 at an auction a few years ago go for £23k (not including buyer's premium) when it was a non-runner and most of the panels were rotten and the interior was wrecked by pigeon droppings and mouse damage. But I suppose someone bought it for the VIN plate - and it was a genuine UK TR5. Who knows. I wouldn’t have bought it for the VIN. Sacrilege to break up a restorable genuine UK TR5 for that reason. There again there are a lot of idiots around in the speculation game. Kevin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ntc Posted March 1, 2021 Report Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 hour ago, roy53 said: But in the end it is a 250 and not a 5 regardless of badges Roy The 250 is now rare there all 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted March 1, 2021 Report Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 hour ago, boxofbits said: I wouldn’t have bought it for the VIN. Sacrilege to break up a restorable genuine UK TR5 for that reason. There again there are a lot of idiots around in the speculation game. Kevin It wouldnt have been broken regardless. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Motorsport Mickey Posted March 1, 2021 Report Share Posted March 1, 2021 58 minutes ago, stuart said: It wouldnt have been broken regardless. Stuart. Well according to the sale write up " It was otherwise essentially identical," to a TR5, bet you could tell though Stuart. Mick Richards Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Fremont Posted March 1, 2021 Report Share Posted March 1, 2021 I rather doubt badging a TR250 as a TR5 enhances value. My guess is a proper bonnet stripe would have paid off better. The former is still a bargain relative to the latter ( if you can find one for sale - and let's agree that the Beverly Hills Car Club examples on ebay don't fall into the bargain category! ). I've seen several TR5s on Webers. A TR250 on Webers would be right on par apart from pedigree. But the TR250 bonnet badge is bigger . Tom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steppenwolf Posted March 2, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2021 I suppose the other factor is that selling a rare car in the middle of a pandemic lockdown is not very sensible. People can't travel from up and down the country to look at it because it's against the law. Also i wonder how much classic cars are affected by the banning of sales of petrol cars by 2030. I don't think that will happen but it must give people pause for thought. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DenisMc Posted March 2, 2021 Report Share Posted March 2, 2021 Hi Guys, This one surprised me: https://www.brightwells.com/lot-details/499662 You will see that it sold for £35k. It doesn’t have an overdrive and I suspect it has a non TR5 engine as the number ends in HE. Regards, Denis Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted March 3, 2021 Report Share Posted March 3, 2021 13 hours ago, DenisMc said: Hi Guys, This one surprised me: https://www.brightwells.com/lot-details/499662 You will see that it sold for £35k. It doesn’t have an overdrive and I suspect it has a non TR5 engine as the number ends in HE. Regards, Denis Engine number is correct for a 5, Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DenisMc Posted March 3, 2021 Report Share Posted March 3, 2021 Thanks Stuart. As per usual I bow to your superior knowledge! There would be the buyer’s commission to add and the car does need a fair amount of tidying up. In my view an overdrive is essential with modern motoring speeds so there would be the cost of adding that. Regards, Denis Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted March 3, 2021 Report Share Posted March 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, DenisMc said: Thanks Stuart. As per usual I bow to your superior knowledge! There would be the buyer’s commission to add and the car does need a fair amount of tidying up. In my view an overdrive is essential with modern motoring speeds so there would be the cost of adding that. Regards, Denis Believe it or not quite a lot of 5s came out without overdrive, by that time an overdrive was quite an expensive option. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MikeThomas Posted March 3, 2021 Report Share Posted March 3, 2021 (edited) 47 minutes ago, DenisMc said: Thanks Stuart. As per usual I bow to your superior knowledge! There would be the buyer’s commission to add and the car does need a fair amount of tidying up. In my view an overdrive is essential with modern motoring speeds so there would be the cost of adding that. Regards, Denis Hi Dennis There will be no buyer's fee to be added, it's something Car & Classic has devised to get round lockdown, travel restrictions and numbers of people gathering at auctions. You bid online so there is no venue or staff costs, bit like Ebay. Agree with you on the need for OD, useful. Best wishes, Mike Edited March 3, 2021 by MikeThomas Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DenisMc Posted March 3, 2021 Report Share Posted March 3, 2021 Hi Mike, The TR5 I mentioned that was sold by auction at Brightwells for £35k, would have been subject to a buyer’s premium of 12% + VAT. So the final price would have been just over £40k, which I suppose is probably about right. Regards, Denis Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MikeThomas Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, DenisMc said: Hi Mike, The TR5 I mentioned that was sold by auction at Brightwells for £35k, would have been subject to a buyer’s premium of 12% + VAT. So the final price would have been just over £40k, which I suppose is probably about right. Regards, Denis Ah ha! The other link further down, seen it now. I'm at that funny age. Thanks Denis. Edited March 4, 2021 by MikeThomas Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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