Roger O Posted September 11, 2020 Report Share Posted September 11, 2020 I have a TR6 with triple Weber setup and currently fitting a Racetorations extractor exhaust manifold and Powerlite Starter Motor. The starter motor has a fixed stud at the top and I am trying to get washers and nut on it without resorting to taking the transmission tunnel off. I think that lowering the engine slightly on a jack having undone the mounts may give me clearance. Anyone out there found a simpler solution? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish Posted September 11, 2020 Report Share Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) Have you tried rotating the ring that holds the fixed stud ? Would this make life easier. I did this with my 3a Edited September 12, 2020 by Hamish Added pics Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iani Posted September 11, 2020 Report Share Posted September 11, 2020 I managed to fit mine by putting the nut on when there were only a few threads of the bolt through the hole, I then gradually wound it on. I recall this wasn't much fun and it took ages as I couldn't get much of a turn at a time, even using a cut down spanner. It's much easier with the tunnel removed and it probably doesn't take any longer to remove it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Roger O Posted September 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2020 Thanks for the replies. I may try rotating the ring as I can get a bolt in the upper hole and the stud would be no problem at the bottom. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z320 Posted September 11, 2020 Report Share Posted September 11, 2020 Rotate the ring (flange) of the starter? Is this possible? For me this is interesting for another reason... But the bolts remains in the same position, so you rotate the starter. Benefit for your problem? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Yarm 783 Posted September 11, 2020 Report Share Posted September 11, 2020 It’s simply a case of patience and dexterity, it will go in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave McDonald Posted September 11, 2020 Report Share Posted September 11, 2020 A strategically placed 25mm diameter hole in the side of the transmission tunnel allows a nut to be fitted and tightened on the starter motor fixed top stud with a long socket extension from inside the car without removing the seat. etc. Only the carpet cover needs to be folded over to expose it. The hole can be sealed with a 25mm diameter rubber bung. Unfortunately, it usually means that everything has to be removed in the first place to accurately determine the position for the "strategically placed" hole, but it's much simpler the next time around. Dave McD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z320 Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) Is there no space to press the bolt out and use nuts and bolts like usual? How wide is the gap from the flange to the starter, please? Edited September 12, 2020 by Z320 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
astontr6 Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 9 hours ago, Dave McDonald said: A strategically placed 25mm diameter hole in the side of the transmission tunnel allows a nut to be fitted and tightened on the starter motor fixed top stud with a long socket extension from inside the car without removing the seat. etc. Only the carpet cover needs to be folded over to expose it. The hole can be sealed with a 25mm diameter rubber bung. Unfortunately, it usually means that everything has to be removed in the first place to accurately determine the position for the "strategically placed" hole, but it's much simpler the next time around. Dave McD This is what I did with a Wasp Starter Motor makes it very easy to remove and re-fit! Can be done in minutes and no swearing! Bruce. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, Dave McDonald said: A strategically placed 25mm diameter hole in the side of the transmission tunnel allows a nut to be fitted and tightened on the starter motor fixed top stud with a long socket extension from inside the car without removing the seat. etc. Only the carpet cover needs to be folded over to expose it. The hole can be sealed with a 25mm diameter rubber bung. Unfortunately, it usually means that everything has to be removed in the first place to accurately determine the position for the "strategically placed" hole, but it's much simpler the next time around. Dave McD I also did it this way when in a camping field in the Lake District. I used a hole that the large floor bung would fit. (Plastic tunnel) If you can get under the car then a 12"+ socket extension and a UJ will do it. You can't see where it is going but using an 'engineers eye' it works OK. Roger Edited September 12, 2020 by RogerH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PodOne Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 Morning all I like the hole idea. Any chance some one could take a picture of its position from inside the shell so I can pre drill one now while I have a bare shell should make life easier when the time comes and later on when I'm not so supple! Plus it will help others I'm sure at a later date. Thanks Andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Harbottle Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 Hi Roger, as you can see from the comments, many have tried before you to do this including me. I found (without already having the tunnel access as described above) that patience and a knowledge of swear words helped i managed to do it from underneath the car but took a while, with small turns on the nut very wearing and time consuming. Patience is the key. Good luck Paul Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z320 Posted September 13, 2020 Report Share Posted September 13, 2020 On 9/12/2020 at 9:31 AM, astontr6 said: This is what I did with a Wasp Starter Motor makes it very easy to remove and re-fit! Can be done in minutes and no swearing! Bruce. On the Wosp homepage their starters also have a pressed in upper bolt.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
astontr6 Posted September 13, 2020 Report Share Posted September 13, 2020 41 minutes ago, Z320 said: On the Wosp homepage their starters also have a pressed in upper bolt.... 41 minutes ago, Z320 said: On the Wosp homepage their starters also have a pressed in upper bolt.... You need that pressed in bolt to take the weight, They do not press in that bolt now unless you ask for it? With a strategically placed hole I can remove that top nut in minutes! You then have to deal with the bottom nut. If you have the top stud/bolt pressed in this takes the weight while you unscrew the bottom nut from below. Learnt through experience? Bruce. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z320 Posted September 13, 2020 Report Share Posted September 13, 2020 Hi Bruce, thank you, so it is possible to put 2 bolts in from behind and the gap to the starter body is wide enough to get a washer and nut on the upper bolt? I have to go that way on my MX5 gearbox with the bolts glued in the adapter plate, so I have to use nuts from the engine side. On the Powerlite starter the gap seems to be less? Ciao, Marco Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave McDonald Posted September 13, 2020 Report Share Posted September 13, 2020 On 9/12/2020 at 10:01 AM, Harbottle said: a knowledge of swear words helped Good luck Paul Wasn't it always the way? A full vocabulary can be so uplifting in difficult stressful moments. Dave McD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
astontr6 Posted September 14, 2020 Report Share Posted September 14, 2020 17 hours ago, Z320 said: Hi Bruce, thank you, so it is possible to put 2 bolts in from behind and the gap to the starter body is wide enough to get a washer and nut on the upper bolt? I have to go that way on my MX5 gearbox with the bolts glued in the adapter plate, so I have to use nuts from the engine side. On the Powerlite starter the gap seems to be less? Ciao, Marco Hi Marco, Please note I have never done a Powerlite S M. I have only ever done a Wosp type. Bruce. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z320 Posted September 14, 2020 Report Share Posted September 14, 2020 Bruce, thank you and sorry me, my question was not correct. With the Wosp starter there is a gap wide enough between the flange and starter body to get a washer and nut there on the standard (or cut shorter) bolt? Ciao, Marco Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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