Noel Maule Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 Well, i was rummaging around in the workshop looking for some brake bits for a Vanden Plas and uncovered these little beauties. NOS Lucas Twinlamps 576 spot & fog lights and a matching pair of NOS Lucas FT7 Fograngers. I vaguely remember buying the 576's donkeys years ago with a job lot of stuff but i can't for the life of me recall the Fograngers. They have been under piles of accumulated . . er, "parts" for longer than i care to remember but what a lovely find. I'm tempted now to fit a pair on the TR.But which pair. What do you all think ? Maybe the 576's go back to the 50's ? The Fogranger are probably more in the TR4A era do you think. But the Twinlamps are classy. Which pair would you all fit if you were going to wire up a pair of fog/spot lights ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 The twin lamps would be my choice what a great find H Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stillp Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 The Fograngers for me. The Twinlamps would be better for a sidescreeen car. Pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tony_C Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 Very, very nice find Noel......................If you’ve got a good battery and or alternator conversion.. stick them all on? ... Either or both will look great.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Noel Maule Posted June 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 Ha ha that's one each for the Twinlamps and the Fograngers and one for both ! Even stevens at the mo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 9 minutes ago, Noel Maule said: Ha ha that's one each for the Twinlamps and the Fograngers and one for both ! Even stevens at the mo. What are they for ? just assumed it was side screen - after all they are the original and best tr to have Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Noel Maule Posted June 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 I'm thinking of fitting them on to a TR4A Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iain Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 Nice find indeed. The SLR and the SFT are period correct for 2/3/ early 4 the others not so sure. Iain Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Noel Maule said: I'm thinking of fitting them on to a TR4A Changed my mind matching fog rangers it is then. 2 hours ago, stillp said: The Fograngers for me. The Twinlamps would be better for a sidescreeen car. Pete Good call Pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G Denson Posted June 27, 2020 Report Share Posted June 27, 2020 As far as the dates of the 576’s are concerned if they are originals on the rear of the lamp should have a date stamp. So if manufactured in June 1958 it would be 658 if in November 1158 Hope this helps Cheers Gordon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Noel Maule Posted June 28, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2020 Yes Gordon they are new old stock originals. May 1963 , so pretty close to my car's age (66) but i'm leaning a little towards the Lucas Fogmasters now to be honest. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NigelH Posted June 29, 2020 Report Share Posted June 29, 2020 Hi, 576's were a common fitment throughout the 50's and 60's..apparently from 62 the lucas logo had a ribbed finish and not smooth. According to t'internet they were produced till the early 80's..but looked a bit old fashioned by then. Interesting post.(didn't know about the date coding)..Ive just had a pair of 'flamethrowers' as a surprise birthday prezzy to fit to my 64 car. My loom looks like it has bullet connectors spare at the front for the purpose of spot lamps (feeding from main beam feed?)..would that be correct? Or would separate switch/relay/wiring be a better option? thx Nigel H Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Noel Maule Posted June 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 Nigel, i'm going to wire my lights to a separate switch and relay. I think that's the sensible way to go myself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Morrison Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 Thought spots/fogs could only be used together with main beam? So the feed to your switch/relay would need to pick up from the main beam supply, is that correct? John. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rod1883 Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 Spot (Driving?) lamps with main beam, Fogs with dipped I would have thought? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Noel Maule Posted June 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 I think John is right that you can only use spots with main beam . I will be wiring my relay and switch to the main beam supply unless anyone knows better ? Mind you it would be nice to have some versatility and as Rod say's maybe useful to use a fog light with dipped headlights but not sure that's legal ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NigelH Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 Thank you all.. Time to get the meter out and find out what all these spare connections are connected too.. Will be wiring in to main beam with relay. I believe fogs can be a separate switch..as per modern cars..dont quote me.. Nigel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rod1883 Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 ...just for clarity, what I meant was that Fog lights should only be used alongside dipped headlights and then only when poor visibility requires the use of said foglights (fogs can dazzle in conditions of good visibility). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobH Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Rod1883 said: (fogs can dazzle in conditions of good visibility). If they do they are very badly adjusted and would be useless in fog. The whole point of a foglamp is the low broad beam pointed at the road just in front of the car. (yes I know what the lighting regs say) Edited June 30, 2020 by RobH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rod1883 Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, RobH said: If they do they are very badly adjusted and would be useless in fog. The whole point of a foglamp is the low broad beam pointed at the road just in front of the car. Can't agree. Fog Lights are not angled away as 'dipped' headlamps are, so in good visibility can present a dazzle risk to oncoming traffic, as per the RAC guidance: You should only use your fog lights when visibility is below 100 metres. To use a classic British measurement putting it in perspective: that’s roughly the length of a football pitch. It’s important not to use your fog lights when visibility is better than that, as you risk dazzling other drivers. https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/know-how/car-lights-and-headlights-what-they-are-and-when-to-use-them/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobH Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 I said I was aware of what the regs say Rod and I think you are talking about those modern ultra-bright things set in the bumper and usually pointed at the sky. Those are actually 'driving' lamps. I have a 567 foglight and I can assure you it does not dazzle (even if it could with the weedy bulb). The whole point about it is that it is directed down at the road surface at far more of an angle than a dipped headlight to illuminate the white lines and curb in fog without scattering light back at the driver. The beam pattern is a bar across the road just in front of the car. No chance of dazzle from that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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