GT6M Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 Both of them filters are in the wrong orientation, why o why doo thee,s so called specialist doo this,!!! M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
k_raven_smith Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 Check you have good flow of fuel from the tank . If there is a blockage in the feed pipe from the tank the pump will become noisy due to fuel starvation Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whatmore179 Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 (edited) Good advice from K_Raven you could have a pre filter as show below link http://www.revingtontr.com/product/rtr4050k/name/pump-kit-bosch-tap-in-boot These have filters which need cleaning or changing and could cause a blockage Peejay4A i said pre filter not the post pump filter. Steve Edited July 20, 2016 by whatmore179 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kcsun Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 GT6M why do you say that, please explain for a dumb Essexboy? kc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kcsun Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 This is the **** I get collected in the Prefilter, even after cleaning the petrol tank out twice kc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whatmore179 Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 Well worth having a pre filter as shown above Steve Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kerry Posted July 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 Well worth having a pre filter as shown above Steve Way ahead of you Steve Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kcsun Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 I have a Nespresso in the garage for these occasions as well as TV with Sky (in case I miss an episode of Wheeler Dealers) Wifi extender for googling "anything and everything" and a fridge filled with drinks, argh "home from home" kc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mike3739 Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 Way ahead of you Steve Brilliant Kerry Cheers Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mike3739 Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 I have a Nespresso in the garage for these occasions as well as TV with Sky (in case I miss an episode of Wheeler Dealers) Wifi extender for googling "anything and everything" and a fridge filled with drinks, argh "home from home" kc What are you like? Fair play to you Cheers Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bluebob Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 Hi Kerry No one yet has mentioned this, before you start on calling people checking this and that, try this, firstly was the tank full before you set off? (2) you mention car run for a while before the problem arose (3) you left it for a while and still would not run properly? I had a very similar issue after a rebuild and found the issue was the wrong filler fuel cap supplied/fitted you may have a "carb" filler cap which does not have a breather/vent in the cap itself, (injection has breather) this causes the fuel as used to create a vacuum so no fuel going to the pump which would also cause the noise you are getting as the tank is gravity fed to the pump. if this happens again just open the fuel cap this will allow air to enter tank feed the pump and then off you go, as I was trying to get to whales at the time it happened about four times en-route once the fuel started to low it run lovely then started again once I filled up to cure problem I cut rubber sill with Stanley knife no more problems then just bought right filler cap once home. hope this may help Bluebob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GT6M Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 GT6M why do you say that, please explain for a dumb Essexboy? kc Quite simples really, think aboot it., its no rocket science, just basic common sence giv ye a clue, think olde school deisel,why they wont run !!! AND, that useless wee filter yer showing, bin it, clogg up too easily,,get a decent BIGGG deisel filter, M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peejay4A Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 (edited) Good advice from K_Raven you could have a pre filter as show below link http://www.revingtontr.com/product/rtr4050k/name/pump-kit-bosch-tap-in-boot These have filters which need cleaning or changing and could cause a blockage Peejay4A i said pre filter not the post pump filter. Steve The way it looks to me is that the filter is in front of the pump in Kerry's picture. So a pre filter then? Is it just me or is Kerry's connected up differently to KC's? Edited July 20, 2016 by peejay4A Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kcsun Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 Quite simples really, think aboot it., its no rocket science, just basic common sence giv ye a clue, think olde school deisel,why they wont run !!! AND, that useless wee filter yer showing, bin it, clogg up too easily,,get a decent BIGGG deisel filter, M I did try to "think about it, its not rocket science, just basic common sense". I followed all the installation instructions that came with my pump and pre-filter so it is beyond my comprehension!!! I am sorry but I have no idea what you are on about. You seem to be talking in riddles? I googled BIGGG DIESEL filters (I assume you mean DIESEL and not Deisel?) and could not find the company you mention Do you mean this company based in Russia? http://www.bigfilter.com/en/production/fuel/diesel/ I have no problem with my pre filter now, I carry a spare cartridge "just in case" and can change it at the side of the road in under 10 minutes. You still have not explained why you think my system is installed incorrectly. I do not need you to give me a clue, the TR6 runs on petrol not diesel so why is "old school diesel" so important kc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GT6M Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 So, ye followed the Vendors instuctions to the letter, , this is the problemo. the instalation instructionee,s are wrong, thats cos the folk selling em aint got a bloody clue, OK ona modern, but on a pressure reliant MU and pressure pulsed injectors, no good at all { You still have not explained why you think my system is installed incorrectly. I do not need you to give me a clue, the TR6 runs on petrol not diesel so why is "old school diesel" so important } Haa haa, you doo need a clue, A deisel is an important reff, as they { PI,and Deisel } work on pressure to operate, concur will a deisel work with air in its system, Nope Is the OE Cav deisel filter set up in a PI on its side, nope. why not. !! is the OE cav filter full of fuel Yes, is yours, nope, why not,!! does a glass fill with water when its upside doon in a dish of water, nope, why not.!! as said, its not rocket science, but basic stuff Basic stuff that the so called ..specialists, cant seem to fathom out. and the unknowing buy, M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRoberts Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 KC The photo of yours is as how Malcolm of Prestige Dev. and Injection advise me to re pipe my pump assembly whilst at Lincoln this last weekend. I bought the prefilter from him at the show. I have had new SS hoses made locally.Have rewired with a relay. Works realy well. JohnR Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GT6M Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 Ohh dear, A specialist giving duff advice cos he following other specialist set ups wid oot ever thinking about the basics of fuel delivery, and the unknowing buying into this rubbish,, No deisel fitter, would ever fit a filter / filters like that. No deisel car, truck manufacturer will ever fit owt like that No deisel car truck manufacturer has ever fitted owt like that have any of you ever seen owt like that ona deisel engine,!!! tried to give good sound advice, to get folks cars running right, prob free, folk wont listen to simple well proven basics of deisel systems fuel pipe work. which applies to yer PI M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peejay4A Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 So Marcus are you saying that the filters should be mounted vertically? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kcsun Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 Hi John, mine is the Prestige system and those were the instructions I followed as well Marcus, when I managed to decipher your ramblings you actually made sense for which I do thank you and will resolve as soon as possible (why write 10 words when 200 rambling, misspelt comments, trying to be funny, words seem to suit you better!!!) Forget all the Diesel or DEISEL ****, I understand a vertical filter will be 100% full of fuel and work more efficiently than my horizontal one. I am not sure that the filter Malcolm supplied will fit vertically but will investigate it this weekend, may even order a replacement from your Russian friends at Big filter.com!! kc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GT6M Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 (edited) Ahaa, its getting thru !!! Yes, all fuel filters should be mounted verticly. and, feed in frae top, out let at bottom, reason, any slush petrol, { lots of it frae a Bosche pump } will have time to go solid, and as its onits way thru filter, it goes to top, good fuel, {solid fuel } oot the bottom Need to sit yer pree filter and yer after filter Verticly. As for a Bigggg filter, its hard to try and say big filter, wen yer no next to some one, as then they could see yer hands hoo farr apart they are, showing size, So, Big is bigger than that wee thing ye got, Biggg is much much bigger,, follow. there are bigg cav type filter about for wagons, thee,s have a drain ont bottom, this can be used as the outlet, Noo then, a Bigggg filter as a pree filter, sitt,n verticly will act as a swirl pot it can be ona slight incline, as long as inlets at top. this is really needed ona bosche set up, as the amount of slushed up fuel gaa,n frae the PRV will soon make the tank full of slushy fuel, tek the filler off, look down when ther 1/2 tamk, and be amazed at yer fuel its glistening wid billions of wee bubbles. a froth. { bigger the pump, the moer fuel frae PRV, the moer bubbles return to tank, this why a B26 will cause as much problems as it solves over a lesser pump, running weel over its rated workings , which all the specialist sell. } this slushy fuel then gets sucked into yer pump which starts to scream at ye, which alott of folk say its cavitating, needs to cool doon,fill up wid petrol. folk are told,correct,!!! yes, due to air int fuel, as weel as gettin too hot, due to sucking frothy fuel, caused by wrong filter inclinations A bigg filter will allow the frothed up fuel to filter its way to top of filter, an hopefully good solid fuel will be onits way to yer pump After pump, it gets frothed up agen, this why after filter should be verticle agen, outlet at bottom, feed at top. can even { i had one } fit a wee see thru one coming frae PRV to tank, see froth come in, and good fuel wid a bigg bubble noo an then mek,n its way to tank. { early 5,s had the PRV return into filter, a bad idea, soon rectified by factory } AND, for really trouble free use, there needs to be a bigg filter just befoer MU inlet this will get rid of owt that the after filter no got rid of. inlet at top, outlet at bottom. All this was done on me own car, { alott lott harder on thee,s than a TR / Spitty with their high up tanks } after thee,s mods, {found oot by actually running clear lines, to see wot was going on } I had no problems, no overheating, no injecters wid air in em, and could actually run reduced full load settings, A modern electronic set up, dont need all this, a pree, and a after filter , on their sides will suffice, as injectors are opened by elektrikery, NOT pressure. Air can compress, so as this air in yer injector lines is compress,n then the engin aint gettin as much fiuel as it should be, This is why the refference to a deisel is very important. as a deisel wont run at all if there air int system,{ olde school type } butt, gotta ask yer selves , why is there air in me injector pipes why does me injectors not spray the slug of fuel frae MU is v v small, and iff alott of air int lines, then this why they no work, the air is compressed,but the injecter valve aint been opened,, simples, ye follow,!! Look thur here, ther some bigg filters,an housings to suit https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=diesel+filter+housings&client=firefox-b&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj8jI3vx4XOAhWpDsAKHWuADrEQ_AUICCgB&biw=984&bih=597&dpr=1.25 Ohh, ,thes nee spel,n misteks,it dialekt,an no tri,n t,be fun,e eitha maybe some use to some, M Edited July 21, 2016 by GT6M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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