Daz Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 I love TVRs, I have owned a few, but you cant compare TVRs and TRs, different cars from different ages. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daz Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 That 2nd choice of a TVR Chimaera sounds a better idea already ! Neil No No No Neil, are you a hairdresser ? Chims, like the Audi TT have that image, you would have to drive round with a bag over your head or let the wife drive everywhere Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Neil W Posted March 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Lets not get started on TVR chassis issues! Common sense will prevail Neil I'm sure, someone who's properly cared for their car will instill great confidence in you, whereas anyone after a "quick buck" will make you run a mile (whatever car you go for) Have you driven a TR6 yet?.....a TVR? Simon I have viewed 3 & haven't asked to drive any of them as did not want to waste the seller valuable time - as I wasn't going to buy their cars after the initial inspection so not fair just to tyre kick for a free test drive. My plan is to hire a TR6 for the day as I have a hire company 3 miles from where I live so can take it round familar roads - get it into my garage for space & see how my 6ft 4 frame can see over the windscreen.I had a concourse TR7 dhc previous but sold that as it wasn't getting used by me ie scared to take it out in the rain plus it had only 10K original miles on it - so peering over the windscreen is natural but stepping down into / out of the 7 was a bind. The car the hire company has is an 1974 US Import 125 BHP on carbs but I'm after a PI - it will give me a base line to see if it is for me. http://www.classiccarhireyorkshire.co.uk/cars/triumph-tr6/ I find the original seats better than the MX 5 ones for my height when sitting in the car - I have heard they are more comfortable but life is a compromise so a bit of back ache it maywell be Also found a hire company in Hampshire to try a TVR should the 6 not fit my requirements. http://www.newforestsportscarhire.co.uk/#!gallery/c8sn Neil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Neil W Posted March 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 No No No Neil, are you a hairdresser ? Chims, like the Audi TT have that image, you would have to drive round with a bag over your head or let the wife drive everywhere No a red blooded Engineer - having driven around in a small TR7 I am use to image & the wife does not drive any of my cars Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TRseks Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 I have viewed 3 & haven't asked to drive any of them as did not want to waste the seller valuable time - as I wasn't going to buy their cars after the initial inspection so not fair just to tyre kick for a free test drive. My plan is to hire a TR6 for the day as I have a hire company 3 miles from where I live so can take it round familar roads - get it into my garage for space & see how my 6ft 4 frame can see over the windscreen.I had a concourse TR7 dhc previous but sold that as it wasn't getting used by me ie scared to take it out in the rain plus it had only 10K original miles on it - so peering over the windscreen is natural but stepping down into / out of the 7 was a bind. The car the hire company has is an 1974 US Import 125 BHP on carbs but I'm after a PI - it will give me a base line to see if it is for me. http://www.classiccarhireyorkshire.co.uk/cars/triumph-tr6/ I find the original seats better than the MX 5 ones for my height when sitting in the car - I have heard they are more comfortable but life is a compromise so a bit of back ache it maywell be Also found a hire company in Hampshire to try a TVR should the 6 not fit my requirements. http://www.newforestsportscarhire.co.uk/#!gallery/c8sn Neil If it's a US import it's propably 105hp, not 125, unless the engine was replaced/tuned. But good idea to drive a car before you buy it, I never drove my car before I bought it but no big deal really, I'm prepared to get used to the car and not expect it to behave like a modern car. But I do know that many have trouble with the small space, noise, heavy clutch etc. I guess if you have driven a few old cars it's not a problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 I must admit I prefer the painted sills, I remember the escorts with black stone chip on after they'd been patch welded. It's odd that I hadn't noticed the finishing strip on the car, I had to go check mine had it.......I must be have been cleaning while half asleep as it is there. Matt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Neil W Posted March 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 If it's a US import it's propably 105hp, not 125, unless the engine was replaced/tuned. But good idea to drive a car before you buy it, I never drove my car before I bought it but no big deal really, I'm prepared to get used to the car and not expect it to behave like a modern car. But I do know that many have trouble with the small space, noise, heavy clutch etc. I guess if you have driven a few old cars it's not a problem. Chap says the TR6 Hire Car has a uprated camshaft - not the main criteria for hiring - as I have size 11's & 6ft odd - size does matter to make sure it is comfy to drive - the 7 was just about as narrow as the 6 but stepping down into the floor over the sill strengther was a bad design on the 7. Matt - glad you found the trim strips - will need to invest in some stainless steel cleaner now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
simonjrwinter Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 Neil, have you considered a Stag? Simon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alec Pringle Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 "stepping down into the floor over the sill strengther was a bad design on the 7." That's an arguable proposition, to put it mildly . . . . . if one is unfortunate enough to sideswipe the scenery at high speed, the difference between a 7 and a 6 is the difference between severe bruising and a wooden overcoat. There is no contest in a collision, the Wedge wins hands down. As for sill trim strips, presence or absence thereof, if that's a major criteria in the purchasing decision, then the priorities are more than slightly skewed. It's a sports car for heaven's sake, a driving machine, what ruddy difference do a couple of tin strips make ? Minor visuals, and a small amount of superfluous weight . . . . . Cheers Alec Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Neil W Posted March 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) Neil, have you considered a Stag? Simon Hi Simon, Yes - ruled out a Stag as the T-Bar was always near the side of my head when I drove one - plus most are Autos so a 6 it is. Neil Edited March 27, 2015 by Neil W Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Neil W Posted March 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) "stepping down into the floor over the sill strengther was a bad design on the 7." That's an arguable proposition, to put it mildly . . . . . if one is unfortunate enough to sideswipe the scenery at high speed, the difference between a 7 and a 6 is the difference between severe bruising and a wooden overcoat. There is no contest in a collision, the Wedge wins hands down. As for sill trim strips, presence or absence thereof, if that's a major criteria in the purchasing decision, then the priorities are more than slightly skewed. It's a sports car for heaven's sake, a driving machine, what ruddy difference do a couple of tin strips make ? Minor visuals, and a small amount of superfluous weight . . . . . Cheers Alec Alec, The comment on the sill was from a getting / in out point & obviously as designs improve from the 60's TR6 design to the 70's TR7 so does safety. Compromises I suppose & a step forward. My reason why I asked the question was - A badly restored car or one that has been in an accident won’t be a ‘good driving machine’ at all – the trim piece to me is a good indication of work done as is door gaps, hood fit, chassis condition, fuel system upgrades & engine thrust bearing etc. I saw an advert for an totally unrestored car - never seen a welded it said but had no trim fitted - where did the holes go - I moved on to the next search. One of the above replies mentioned incorectly fitted sills could be a reason for the non refitting of the trim - if you browse the internet for cars for sale & look closely at a side view he is right ( but not all for sale as I am not that daft ) the centre section can appear not to flow to the wings rear creases. I don’t have the luxury to be able to spend 700 mile round trips viewing cars each time a good one comes up for sale hence I have become selective to the ones I view, just as people do on a specific colour / US import or not etc. so that is one of the criteria's for me when deciding on a purchase especially when spending a good sum of cash on a car & therefore I don't feel 'slightly skewed' on my reasons. Neil Edited March 27, 2015 by Neil W Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alec Pringle Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 Hi Neil, I can appreciate the logic with regard to the strips, but it's all too easy to attach too much emphasis to that item . . . . . back in the day it was not unusual for 6s to have the sills resprayed body colour by the supplying dealer, and the trim strips may well have been dispensed with at the time. Fast forward a decade and many owners removed the strips as part and parcel of a respray or even rebuild, yours truly included . . . . . and the fascination with restoring them, and other little original details, is more of a 21st Century phenomenon. I've seen some excellent TRs for sale, but which were dismissed by many potential purchasers for lack of a few so-called 'original' details. It's all too easy to get carried away with minor detail and overlook, for example, the integrity of the top surface of the chassis or the endfloat in the crankshaft thrust washers. Sellers, trade and private alike, can be all too well aware of this . . . . . and focus on the visual touches which are but surface deep ! Caveat emptor . . . . . Don't overlook or underestimate the willingness of other Forumites to have an initial look at a car for sale on your behalf - that can save one heck of a lot of unnecessary miles. Don't hesitate to ask for assistance from someone close to a car that comes on the market. Cheers Alec Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ntc Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 If the trim is missing take a strait edge and you will see how good or bad it is,I have seen many so called top flight restorers omit this detail . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jean Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 IMHO the chrome sill strip makes the car looking much more slender. My car has them since new and I can't see any serious signs of rust so there is little reason to leave them off. As a 70 model year it is fitted with the thin strips, the same size was used on the hardtops. My car came also with the black sills, but I can't say where this was applied. Also realize that, how strange it looks the original sill is slightly curved and the strip is straight, leaving a small gap on both sides,and that's the way it came from the factory.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
astontr6 Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 Hi all! Genuine BL sills come already drilled!!!!! Bruce. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Neil W Posted March 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 Caveat emptor . . . . . Don't overlook or underestimate the willingness of other Forumites to have an initial look at a car for sale on your behalf - that can save one heck of a lot of unnecessary miles. Don't hesitate to ask for assistance from someone close to a car that comes on the market. Cheers Alec Alec - you have actually hit on something I was going to post as a thank you - a TR Reg member e-mailed me & offered a drive his car instead of hiring one. This kind of offer was so nice ( although presently can't take him up on the offer ) - there are very nice people on this forum - will becoming a member when returning from work abroad. Neil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cp25616 Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 Bruce I have come across many original sills and own a couple to this day, stored away for a rainy day, and they do not have holes already drilled. Anyone else like to comment one way or t'other? Alan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ntc Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 They do not have holes drilled . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alec Pringle Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 No holes in my spare Stanpart sills for sure, although Heritage repros may well have them ? Cheers Alec Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 None of the sills repro/original or other have the holes for the strips drilled as its the same sill panel for all models 4/4a/5/6 and the 4/4a`s dont have strips fitted. Stuart Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mark69 Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) Neil Have checked out Pilkie's tr6 advertised on here. Complete with sill strips. Edited March 27, 2015 by Mark69 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
astontr6 Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 Hi All!, Holes or no holes My outer sill and Driver's Door were replaced in 1975 by parts straight from the Production Line Stores. There was no drilling required to fit the finishing trim except to fix the rivet clips on. Therefore, it looks like sills, that were sold as spares were un-pierced. Bruce. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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