TrRob Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 The current one which is mounted at the right wing of my TR4A is not an orginal one. How does the orginal looks and where is it mounted? Pics are welcome. Rob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mike3md Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 (edited) Rob, The bottle sits beside the radiator, on the right hand side viewed from the rear, and the bottom is roughly level with the rad support bracket. There is a useful diagram on the Moss website: http://www.moss-europe.co.uk/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=2008 I think all the parts you need, including the bracket, are available. Mike Edited April 24, 2013 by mike3md Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisR-4A Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 (edited) I recently purchased the Moss rad to bottle pipe and they sent a rigid item which did not fit. When I rang the guy said send it back and we do the green flexible tube by the meter but it is only in the catalogues for the Spitfire for some reason. So don't buy the part no shown in the cat for the 4A but ring up and get some off the roll, I suggest you get enough to have a spare as hardly any garages or Factors stock this today. Spitfire part GRH1001M OVERFLOW TUBING Note: per metre £3.35 Edited April 24, 2013 by potts4a Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuartmac Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 Hi Attached is a picture of the bottle and carrier fitted to my Tr4 The bracket was attached to the same mount on the inner wing as the over rider steady bar I've kept the original (?) bottle and carrier, but it was a bit tired, so I replaced it with an Irn-Bru water bottle and carrier !!! Not everyone's cup of tea, but buried in the engine bay you don't notice it and the overflow tube fits into the lid perfectly. Stuart Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ade-TR4 Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 (edited) Wow Stuart, they are some mighty fine inlet trumpets on those carbs! Impressive - I bet the induction noise is very satisfying! Ade Edited April 25, 2013 by Ade-TR4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuartmac Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 Ade I can't confirm that they add anything to the performance, but yes,they do sound great, mothers with small children should stand well back! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
New Bloke Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 HI Stuart, Do they have an inbuilt filter or do you suck in unfiltered air? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TrRob Posted April 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 Thanks a lot guys. @Stuart, the bottle at the left wing is that for the watertank for the wipers? (I don't how to call it). Is that from the Spitfire? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Harvey Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 Rob, I bought a new overflow bottle and bracket for my 4A as the old one looked very tatty from Chic Doig on EBay: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RADIATOR-OVERFLOW-BOTTLE-and-PIPE-KIT-TR4A-5-6-SPIT-/370674713236?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item564def4294 I have now fitted a different overflow system and you are welcome to have the one I bought for the cost of the postage. The bracket fits in the same place as original, using the original bolt holes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuartmac Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 Its the washer bottle on the LH wing. Could well be the same as a Spitfire, in my experience most triumphs and MG's of the era had a very similar washer bottle. I have Piper socks for the trumpets, I've got a fire extinguisher as well (ref earlier threads about bonfires waiting to happen etc) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ade-TR4 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 At least the Piper socks stop small animals and passers-by being sucked into the carbs (they make a right mess...) Ade Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Harvey Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 At least the Piper socks stop small animals and passers-by being sucked into the carbs (they make a right mess...) Ade and even more mess when the Piper socks catch fire! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuartmac Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Paul - your reg says it all Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TrRob Posted April 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 (edited) Stuart, what is that electric thing next to the over rider steady bar on the picture? Edited April 28, 2013 by TrRob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peejay4A Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 Horn I'd say. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuartmac Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 (edited) Yes - horn(s)by the upper valence steady (the over rider steady is lower down). Always struck me as a poor position, just adding clutter to the engine bay. Horns should be heard and not seen. They would be less obtrusive located down by the forward body to chassis mounts. The loom would need extending and they wouldn't be as well protected from the elements though. .............and why fix it when it aint broke etc etc Edited April 29, 2013 by stuartmac Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TrRob Posted July 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 I got the overflow bottle and the bracket from moss, is the same as seen in the exploded view on the Roadster Factory (http://gar.zeni.net/trf/TR4-GB/pdf/T4p40-45-Cooling.pdf, scroll for the picture). Where/how do I mount the bracket? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
graeme Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 Rob, The bracket should fit to the front RH body mounting bolt, near to the radiator mounting bolt. If you are still not clear, I will get a photo for you. Cheers Graeme Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AlanT Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 The rigid pipe Moss sends you can be worked to the right shape with a heat-gun. Gently! it will melt!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 (edited) There are two slotted mounting holes for the overflow bottle just in front of the front body mounting bracket on the lower part of the right hand wheel arch. Stuart. Edited July 2, 2013 by stuart Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Badfrog Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 HI Stuart, Do they have an inbuilt filter or do you suck in unfiltered air? Yes, that's the major point. In any case, the air supply to the piston chamber is not filtered. That's why I removed mine for true filters. Badfrog Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TrRob Posted July 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 Graeme, a photo is more the welcome. Can't see the mounting holes. Is that for a TR4A or aTR? regards Rob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
coolie Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 hi , i have just fitted my overflow bottle , after cleaning and revamping . it looks great and fitted on right hand side of rad ( looking from the steering wheel . the question is .do yuo have to fit it ? , i did consider running a copper pipe from the rad down to the open air .i know this is not standard,but whats wrong with that, less clutter in the engine bay !! cheer coolie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AlanT Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 Water like most things expands when hot. The excess vloume winds up in the bottle. When it cools the vacuum sucks it back into the engine. This relies on the radiator cap working correctly and there being no leaks, even air-leaks. Could you partly fill the system to allow for expansion. You could, its just tricky to get the quantity exact;y right. It would get topped up and the anti-freeze mixture would get diluted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
North London Mike Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 Don't forget to cut the bottom of the hose at 45deg (not flat) to avoid it vacuuming to the bottom of the bottle ! I fitted a heavy duty plastic hose, cut to length Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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