Jersey Royal Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 (edited) Hi All, Thought i would repaint windscreen frame, So removed glass carefully no problem, slackened of the nuts holding frame in position, bit of penetration fluid left to soak in. Then with the aid of a few heavy taps out comes frame. I had thought i had a problem occuring on the passenger side mount for quite a while. And here iit is Absolutely bl**dy Great Guy Edited November 13, 2008 by Jersey Royal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 Unfotunately thats pretty much what most of them go like although its a bit unusual to have the mounting tube part company with it. Its all repairable although it may be a bit of fun trying to remount the tube in the correct place. Dont forget measure it ten times and weld it once Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jersey Royal Posted November 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 Unfotunately thats pretty much what most of them go like although its a bit unusual to have the mounting tube part company with it. Its all repairable although it may be a bit of fun trying to remount the tube in the correct place. Dont forget measure it ten times and weld it once Stuart. Hi Stuart, I probably helped it part company on its way out, although it was pretty well there anyway. Well i cant weld so am stuffed with getting it done (overhere at vast expense) or getting one already sorted. Will a Tr4 one fit ? Cheers Guy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
88V8 Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 Oh dear, bad luck. It's getting its revenge for your thoughts about the dark side... Glad mine wasn't like that. How does the water get in there? There's been a couple on eBay recently, or you might get one from TR Trader or the TR Shop. Ivor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jersey Royal Posted November 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 Oh dear, bad luck. It's getting its revenge for your thoughts about the dark side... Glad mine wasn't like that. How does the water get in there? There's been a couple on eBay recently, or you might get one from TR Trader or the TR Shop. Ivor Ivor You probably right, its more likely getting revenge fot the thought i had of exchanging her for a Sunbeam Tiger. I reckon this is old rust from years back, it certainly hasnt leaked since i have had it, i knew it was on its way last year when i patched up a section where the window rubbers sticks. It was my plan to remove it and sort it, but didnt expect it to be as bad. Looking at the piece thats come away it was only in intact on its circumference by about 5mm. I also didnt expect it to be a hollow tube. On the bright side i could always go one step further than Badfrog and do an Andrew Smith on it. Thats real open top motoring Cheers Guy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 The TR4 one will fit but needs alterating for your type of hood frame fixings. You need either a TR5/6 one or a MK3 Spitfire one. Beware of frames that are advertised as being perfect unless you get some pictures of the area that yours has gone and around the lower area where the screen rubber sits as thats another area to rot out. Most frames are as bad as yours and good ones these days are few and far between. Thats why i always repair what I have unless Im very lucky to find another one with less rot. Last really good one I saw was a Californian one that I got for one of our local members a couple of years ago from Walter Petchey but I paid top money for it! Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 Oh dear, bad luck. It's getting its revenge for your thoughts about the dark side... Glad mine wasn't like that. How does the water get in there? There's been a couple on eBay recently, or you might get one from TR Trader or the TR Shop. Ivor Ivor the water will get in under the top capping leading edge and often from rotting in under the lower corners of the windscreen rubber. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
88V8 Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 Ivor the water will get in under the top capping leading edge and often from rotting in under the lower corners of the windscreen rubber.Stuart. So some Captain Tolley would be a good idea... Ivor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
trfella Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 Bad luck Guy As Ivor suggested, there has been one on Ebay for some time - It keeps cropping up, but nobody bids - circa 150 GPB starting price. Is is advertised as perfect. Good luck mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JRCWeedon Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 Hi Guy That's real bad luck. I do have a near perfect TR4 frame newly sprayed in Guards Red! However the top rail is different to a TR6 so you would have to change the hood top rail. Let me know if you are interested. Regards John Weedon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YankeeTR5 Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 Wow. I'm always amazed at how things like this happen on our cars. I just wanted to chime in - you can use a windscreen frame from the 4, 4a ect without changing a thing. The difference between the different models is the aluminum cap that sits on top of the windscreen as mentioned, but the 4's will work with a TR6. The difference with the aluminum cap on the 4 is that it has a "lip" that extends out a small amount allowing mounting the soft top portion of the Surrey Top by giving it a foothold to grab on to (yes, there are not clips, snaps or otherwise that hold it in place....). The holes, mounts ect are the same. Should you end up with a 4 (or even a 4a/5/250 that has the surrey top mounting cap) you can always swap out the aluminum caps (a couple of rivets). Then you can sell the surrey cap. I'm pretty sure that by the time the 4a came along, the surrey version of the aluminim cap was only mounted on cars leaving with a surrey, so any 4a cap will match what's on your six. I'm looking for a windscreen frame as well. The TR5 I recently picked up - the prior owner had tried to take off the windscreen by unbolting the one bolt at the bottom of the windscreen (not any of the side bolts - i.e. the one that clamps onto the windscreen) and then trying to pry it off witha crowbar! I figured the lip on the bottom of the windscreen is bent up enough where its worth getting a new one. I've found that SHIPPING is the largest cost. I've looked at two or three on Ebay US (they sell for around $50), but shipping has been quoted at close to $100. Hope all this helps - didn't mean to ramble on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ntc Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 The TR4 one will fit but needs alterating for your type of hood frame fixings. You need either a TR5/6 one or a MK3 Spitfire one. Beware of frames that are advertised as being perfect unless you get some pictures of the area that yours has gone and around the lower area where the screen rubber sits as thats another area to rot out. Most frames are as bad as yours and good ones these days are few and far between. Thats why i always repair what I have unless Im very lucky to find another one with less rot. Last really good one I saw was a Californian one that I got for one of our local members a couple of years ago from Walter Petchey but I paid top money for it!Stuart. Stuart I used a spitfire Mk3 frame a few years back on a restoration and found the sun visor mounting points different Neil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytr5 Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 Try John Sykes of TR Bitz 01925 861861.He always comes up trumps for me and some of our NLG members.(North London Group). Regards Harry TR5 Nutter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR6 Poor Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 Hello, I have one, however I live in the US. I would probably be willing to trade some type of PI parts for the one I have. Mine has no rot whatsoever. Let me know if you are interested. Regards, Gene. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jersey Royal Posted November 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 (edited) Hi All, Thank you all very much for your input, most helpful. And thanks to John for your offer. Marko has come up trumps, well done mate,with Stuarts advise. Cheers Will post pictures in due course, meanwhile dash is all apart and over the place, taken the opputunity to have a tidy up in this area. Guy Edited November 14, 2008 by Jersey Royal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 StuartI used a spitfire Mk3 frame a few years back on a restoration and found the sun visor mounting points different Neil You cant have it allways, at least if its a good frame thats a slightly easier thing to sort than the likes of the rot that Guy has Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ntc Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 You cant have it allways, at least if its a good frame thats a slightly easier thing to sort than the likes of the rot that Guy has Stuart. Agreed Stuart but there is still fabrication involved not so easy for some Neil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jersey Royal Posted November 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 (edited) Agreed Stuart but there is still fabrication involved not so easy for some Neil Hi Neil, I have a plan for the sunvisors, not using the original type, they always gave me grief, and therefore wont need to carry out modification, i hope I have seen these fitted to a Tr4, and they look much better than the picture above, all fittings are chrome. Cheers Guy Edited November 14, 2008 by Jersey Royal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted November 15, 2008 Report Share Posted November 15, 2008 I quite like them as its still possible to see the road ahead although at 6ft4" I find any sunvisor superflous! The only drawback with those Guy is they are a solid lump not like the original squashy ones and I wouldnt like to come into contact with one at speed. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jersey Royal Posted November 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2008 I quite like them as its still possible to see the road ahead although at 6ft4" I find any sunvisor superflous!The only drawback with those Guy is they are a solid lump not like the original squashy ones and I wouldnt like to come into contact with one at speed. Stuart. Hi Stuart, I havent had sunvisors on my motor for ages, have got used to it, massive sunglasses. I have taken on board your comment about coming into contact., being under six foot its not a problem. Cheers GUY Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jersey Royal Posted November 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2008 Hi All, Been considering fitting a new screen in the frame, as mine is covered in tiny chips. Have looked at two main suppliers http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/rimmer/triumph...20&%20Frame http://www.moss-europe.co.uk/Shop/SearchRe...WebCatalogID=41 And there is a large difference in cost between them So which screens are better, does it follow that the more expensive is better? I know there were issues a while back on the shape and fit of screens, but would imagine thats past history I am after your recommendations please Thanks Muchly Guy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foster461 Posted November 15, 2008 Report Share Posted November 15, 2008 Hi All, Been considering fitting a new screen in the frame, as mine is covered in tiny chips. Have looked at two main suppliers http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/rimmer/triumph...20&%20Frame http://www.moss-europe.co.uk/Shop/SearchRe...WebCatalogID=41 And there is a large difference in cost between them So which screens are better, does it follow that the more expensive is better? I know there were issues a while back on the shape and fit of screens, but would imagine thats past history I am after your recommendations please Thanks Muchly Guy GBP 76 vs 89.95 for the laminated clear glass if I'm reading that correctly. Seems in the ball park for the same item from two different suppliers, no ?. Stan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jersey Royal Posted November 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2008 (edited) GBP 76 vs 89.95 for the laminated clear glass if I'm reading that correctly. Seems in the ball park for the same item from two different suppliers, no ?. Stan Stan, Silly me, i was comparing tinted against clear from different suppliers. too much "Old Thumper" or not enough Guy Edited November 17, 2008 by Jersey Royal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
trfella Posted November 15, 2008 Report Share Posted November 15, 2008 Re the visors Guy... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TRIUMPH-TR4-TR4A-SUN...A1%7C240%3A1318 Any use? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PILKIE Posted November 15, 2008 Report Share Posted November 15, 2008 Evening Guy. It may well be worth asking your fair islands screen replacement company for a price for one,"fitted and supply only!" You may be surprised "or not" by the price they can do one for!! I know they may have to get one in,but they just order it in from their counterpart on the mainland with the regular top up stock,so it shouldn't be a special order job!! I have a spare in my parts stock for me,but I deliver to auto windscreens in bristol,so will ask them for a price out of curiosity to see how they fare against the usual triumph parts suppliers! Whether to go for toughened or laminated is a personal choice!! Dave Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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