Steven Whitaker Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 Hi all, Does anyone have any recommendations on a good tool to help fit the screen chrome trim please? Also, any tips on how to fill the gearbox and dif with oil are appreciated. I’ve tried searching on here but the search feature is frankly, very poor.. Thanks in advance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jase Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 Isn't the chrome just a push fit around the screen? Just like a Mini rear screen? I tend to fill the gearbox up from underneath the car. The gearbox oil comes in a container suitable to do this.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brenda Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 Hi Steven, I have put a 3” Grommet in the side of my gearbox tunnel I have a large syringe I fill with Penrite GB40 and fill it that way, some gear box oils come with a short bit of pipe. For the diff you have to get the car up off the ground front and back so it’s level no easy way just get under with you diff oil with its short bit of pipe and fill. Mike Redrose Group Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steven Whitaker Posted March 24 Author Report Share Posted March 24 48 minutes ago, Jase said: Isn't the chrome just a push fit around the screen? Just like a Mini rear screen? I tend to fill the gearbox up from underneath the car. The gearbox oil comes in a container suitable to do this.. My trim will not go in easily. Not a chance I’m afraid. Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steven Whitaker Posted March 24 Author Report Share Posted March 24 9 minutes ago, brenda said: Hi Steven, I have put a 3” Grommet in the side of my gearbox tunnel I have a large syringe I fill with Penrite GB40 and fill it that way, some gear box oils come with a short bit of pipe. For the diff you have to get the car up off the ground front and back so it’s level no easy way just get under with you diff oil with its short bit of pipe and fill. Mike Redrose Group Thanks Mike. I guessed as much about the diff. Should have filled it before I fitted the body. Ooops. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jase Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 Have your tried some washing liquid and a rubber mallet? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brenda Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 (edited) Also don’t forget fill the gearbox then use the car for a short distance to allow the oil to move around into the overdrive and top up again. That’s why I have the grommet. Mike Redrose Group Edited March 25 by brenda Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steven Whitaker Posted March 25 Author Report Share Posted March 25 11 hours ago, Jase said: Have your tried some washing liquid and a rubber mallet? I have yes. When I get a start and move along the seal comes back out behind the tool. Maybe the borrowed tool isn’t suitable. It does seem bit bent. That’s why I’m asking for someone to suggest a tool that definitely works before I order one. I saw somewhere that the trim should go in before the rubber seal is fitted to the car! Surely not? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Phil Read Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 1 hour ago, Steven Whitaker said: Please wait while image is uploading... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/185984028055?itmmeta=01HSTG9FCJVZWZ6SRV8NQB4SKV&hash=item2b4d830d97:g:LuQAAOSw1bdkrwcG&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA8Nr5GXzf3Qr1AWf8Pmd1clVMMmhVW%2FV%2BSAZv%2FEv7WYfbryiPqGpz%2F5P5ZqhoyF%2BUXxwPaTZzTv3qfZztyfxImQcsZjD83Ryp7sUFSjZWE6IGI4tpjzAV4AA14ZIc2KDZzkqtrzMTUCQMYLRQU3TbP9l8Org1vJH2KHLMA0pXN%2FeOBnmhzBx2KOmNbKrjF%2BBrNfIiMtBku6ucQs1IqeAuYe8yZfG%2FutXkv8fGV3lWotMysr7rp9zhter4zpybohYdQMw88gKYZP9Kia0ndf1eQVJaxUBwHlGOAugkMqUI%2FodRzln8F%2BmAW8uwuLiWNFkyZQ%3D%3D|tkp%3ABFBMuPal0M5j Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steven Whitaker Posted March 25 Author Report Share Posted March 25 2 minutes ago, Phil Read said: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/185984028055?itmmeta=01HSTG9FCJVZWZ6SRV8NQB4SKV&hash=item2b4d830d97:g:LuQAAOSw1bdkrwcG&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA8Nr5GXzf3Qr1AWf8Pmd1clVMMmhVW%2FV%2BSAZv%2FEv7WYfbryiPqGpz%2F5P5ZqhoyF%2BUXxwPaTZzTv3qfZztyfxImQcsZjD83Ryp7sUFSjZWE6IGI4tpjzAV4AA14ZIc2KDZzkqtrzMTUCQMYLRQU3TbP9l8Org1vJH2KHLMA0pXN%2FeOBnmhzBx2KOmNbKrjF%2BBrNfIiMtBku6ucQs1IqeAuYe8yZfG%2FutXkv8fGV3lWotMysr7rp9zhter4zpybohYdQMw88gKYZP9Kia0ndf1eQVJaxUBwHlGOAugkMqUI%2FodRzln8F%2BmAW8uwuLiWNFkyZQ%3D%3D|tkp%3ABFBMuPal0M5j Yes I’ve seen that already, but does it work with the Triumph trim? I have similar as per my photo but reckon it’s too tight. I don’t want to buy an unproved one. Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Read Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 Yes I fit a new rubber and trim to my TR250. They work on most cars with a rubber trim. Fit the windscreen first and then feend the silver trim in with the tool, I use washing up liquid to help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steven Whitaker Posted March 25 Author Report Share Posted March 25 8 minutes ago, Phil Read said: Yes I fit a new rubber and trim to my TR250. They work on most cars with a rubber trim. Fit the windscreen first and then feend the silver trim in with the tool, I use washing up liquid to help. Ok, thanks. I’ve tried waterered down washing up liquid but it just won’t fit. Very frustrating. The screen is in the car in the rubber seal. Just need to get the damn trim in… Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steven Whitaker Posted March 25 Author Report Share Posted March 25 Does the trim I have look correct? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ianc Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 (edited) I have a rubber bung in the left side of my (fibreglass) gearbox cover, and it makes that job fairly easy - wise words from Mike/Brenda about filling, using and then topping up. I put in 1.7 litres (I have overdrive) at first, but have 2 litres available for the job. As I have a TR4, I have no idea how to fiil the diff on a 4A. I fill my diff by removing the left rear wheel and using a somewhat longer tube on the squidgy oil container. Ian Cornish Edited March 25 by ianc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stillp Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 32 minutes ago, Steven Whitaker said: Does the trim I have look correct? I'm sure mine has a longer protrusion into the rubber, i.e. the vertical bit of the letter T. Pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 (edited) 1 hour ago, Steven Whitaker said: Does the trim I have look correct? No that’s the wrong shape it’ll never fit. Item 23 with clip 24 here https://www.moss-europe.co.uk/shop-by-model/triumph/tr2-4a/body-chassis/windscreens-glazing-fittings/windscreen-tr4-4a-1961-67.html This is what you need below, where did yours come from? Stuart Edited March 25 by stuart Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steven Whitaker Posted March 25 Author Report Share Posted March 25 (edited) 3 hours ago, stuart said: No that’s the wrong shape it’ll never fit. Item 23 with clip 24 here https://www.moss-europe.co.uk/shop-by-model/triumph/tr2-4a/body-chassis/windscreens-glazing-fittings/windscreen-tr4-4a-1961-67.html This is what you need below, where did yours come from? Stuart Thanks Stuart. I got it from MT Classics along with the screen and the rubber. MT have offered to replace it if wrong. So does the trim end up proud of the rubber seal, or sit within, and the edges of the trim are covered by the rubber seal? Is. Does the trim sit inside the rubber seal groove completely or does it sit on top as it were? TIA. Edited March 25 by Steven Whitaker Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stillp Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 15 minutes ago, stuart said: No that’s the wrong shape it’ll never fit. Item 23 with clip 24 here https://www.moss-europe.co.uk/shop-by-model/triumph/tr2-4a/body-chassis/windscreens-glazing-fittings/windscreen-tr4-4a-1961-67.html This is what you need below, where did yours come from? Stuart That's how I remember it. Pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 6 minutes ago, Steven Whitaker said: Thanks Stuart. I got it from MT Classics along with the screen and the rubber. So does the trim end up proud of the rubber seal, or sit within, and the edges of the trim are covered by the rubber seal? Is. Does the trim sit inside the rubber seal groove completely or does it sit on top as it were? TIA. It sits on top of the rubber when fitted as the tail with the bulb should fit into the shaped groove in the rubber, that’s always supposing you have the correct shaped rubber, I only ever fit the Moss ones as the others don’t fit properly Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keith1948 Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 I have found it helps to put the coil of trim in a bucket of hot water. Put some washing up liquid on your finger and rub it along the rubber. Then with trim warmed up it should fit easily. Keith p.s. assuming you have correct trim! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steven Whitaker Posted March 25 Author Report Share Posted March 25 2 minutes ago, stuart said: It sits on top of the rubber when fitted as the tail with the bulb should fit into the shaped groove in the rubber, that’s always supposing you have the correct shaped rubber, I only ever fit the Moss ones as the others don’t fit properly Stuart. Argh ok, thanks. I hope I don’t need to remove the screen to fit a new rubber.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 22 minutes ago, Steven Whitaker said: Argh ok, thanks. I hope I don’t need to remove the screen to fit a new rubber.. If the trim wont fit because the rubber is wrong then you may as well just take a Stanley knife to the rubber as thats the quickest way to get them out, when re-fitting put the rubber round the glass and then warm the trim up in a bucket of hot water and fit it into the rubber then it the whole lot to the car. Dont trim off the excess of the finisher until its settled for a week or so. then trim and fit the clip. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steven Whitaker Posted March 27 Author Report Share Posted March 27 So, I got a new chrome finisher from Moss, and guess what, it doesn't fit into the existing rubber seal.... I could throw it in from next door but it wont stay in the groove!! So, I've now ordered a new rubber seal from Moss.. Any tips on how to cut out the old rubber seal to get the screen back out are appreciated. Grrrr. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted March 27 Report Share Posted March 27 22 minutes ago, Steven Whitaker said: So, I got a new chrome finisher from Moss, and guess what, it doesn't fit into the existing rubber seal.... I could throw it in from next door but it wont stay in the groove!! So, I've now ordered a new rubber seal from Moss.. Any tips on how to cut out the old rubber seal to get the screen back out are appreciated. Grrrr. Stanley knife is favourite and the quickest, go in the groove where you thought the trim would go with handle angled towards the frame so you cut enough of the rubber to get the screen out and then just pull the remnants out after and bin. Give the glass edge a good clean where its been in that rubber and then fit the new rubber round the screen on the bench and then fit the trim in the groove starting centre bottom and fit all the way round and leave the excess poking out at the join, fit your pull in string round the rubber with the ends at the bottom middle and apply a good amount of lube (Durex "Play" is the best) and then slot the screen into the lower part of the frame and with pressure applied against the screen pull the string round a bit at a time going side to side. Leave to settle for a day or two and only then trim the excess off the finisher and fit the clip. A little drop of super glue under the clip stops it going AWOL whilst screen cleaning in the future. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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