TwinCamJohn Posted February 18, 2022 Report Share Posted February 18, 2022 I have just finished an overhaul of the TR3A front suspension. I imagine most parts come from the same place although they are sold by different companies. The top ball joints would not bolt into the upper wishbones, sufficiently to get the split pin in. On checking, the threaded part is shorter and the hole further away from the top. The only way was to use a thinner washer and the old castellated nuts which I discovered had the castellations more profond than the new ones. And as if that wasn't enough, I took out the new grease nipple to replace it with the right angled ones from the old parts. They are not the same size. New is smaller and would not screw up when I tried to return it. The top of the body is made of very cheap metal and very thin. I had to deform the thread a little and add loctite red to get it to stay. Why are we surrounded by so much shite.? Profit no doubt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John McCormack Posted February 19, 2022 Report Share Posted February 19, 2022 6 hours ago, TwinCamJohn said: I have just finished an overhaul of the TR3A front suspension. I imagine most parts come from the same place although they are sold by different companies. The top ball joints would not bolt into the upper wishbones, sufficiently to get the split pin in. On checking, the threaded part is shorter and the hole further away from the top. The only way was to use a thinner washer and the old castellated nuts which I discovered had the castellations more profond than the new ones. And as if that wasn't enough, I took out the new grease nipple to replace it with the right angled ones from the old parts. They are not the same size. New is smaller and would not screw up when I tried to return it. The top of the body is made of very cheap metal and very thin. I had to deform the thread a little and add loctite red to get it to stay. Why are we surrounded by so much shite.? Profit no doubt. I often have similar issues. It isn't profitable to make quality as most purchases are driven by price. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mikej Posted February 19, 2022 Report Share Posted February 19, 2022 Is this a potential safety issue, seems like it may be? MJ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted February 19, 2022 Report Share Posted February 19, 2022 14 hours ago, TwinCamJohn said: I have just finished an overhaul of the TR3A front suspension. I imagine most parts come from the same place although they are sold by different companies. The top ball joints would not bolt into the upper wishbones, sufficiently to get the split pin in. On checking, the threaded part is shorter and the hole further away from the top. The only way was to use a thinner washer and the old castellated nuts which I discovered had the castellations more profond than the new ones. And as if that wasn't enough, I took out the new grease nipple to replace it with the right angled ones from the old parts. They are not the same size. New is smaller and would not screw up when I tried to return it. The top of the body is made of very cheap metal and very thin. I had to deform the thread a little and add loctite red to get it to stay. Why are we surrounded by so much shite.? Profit no doubt. Hi John, are we talking about item # 13 here - Ball Joint If you are really not happy about this product then you could forward me a PQI form. But have you reported your issues back to the vendor?. The Moss WebCat drawing shows it with a nylok nut - would that help installation The grease nipple is a minor issue but selling it with a straight nipple just shows a lax operation - not good but easily sorted. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwinCamJohn Posted February 19, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2022 4 hours ago, RogerH said: Hi John, are we talking about item # 13 here - Ball Joint If you are really not happy about this product then you could forward me a PQI form. But have you reported your issues back to the vendor?. The Moss WebCat drawing shows it with a nylok nut - would that help installation The grease nipple is a minor issue but selling it with a straight nipple just shows a lax operation - not good but easily sorted. Roger Yes, it is #13. It is mounted OK , but the fact is with the nut and washer provided , it couldn't have been done. I appreciate a nyloc nut would sort it but it wasn't supplied with one. Regarding the grease nipple, I agree that to swap would be easy if you had a smaller threaded nipple. But the thread was useless when trying to put the original back in. I bought these in France from a french outlet rather than my usual orders in Germany from SC Parts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted February 19, 2022 Report Share Posted February 19, 2022 (edited) Thanks for the reply. I suspect they use the nipple to cut its own thread in the thin top skin - like a self tapper. Stick with your normal quality supplier. Roger Edited February 19, 2022 by RogerH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boxofbits Posted February 19, 2022 Report Share Posted February 19, 2022 This one looks well constructed and with the correct angled grease nipple. Impossible to say for sure though without TRying to fit it. http://www.leacyclassics.com/200772.html Kevin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwinCamJohn Posted February 19, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2022 That looks like the original.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwinCamJohn Posted February 19, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2022 2 hours ago, RogerH said: Thanks for the reply. I suspect they use the nipple to cut its own thread in the thin top skin - like a self tapper. Stick with your normal quality supplier. Roger The problem is, who can be trusted nowadays? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted February 19, 2022 Report Share Posted February 19, 2022 I do not know the suppliers in France so have no recommendations. Here in the UK my go to suppliers are Moss and TRShop. TRshop tend to inspect many of their parts as they handle small volumes. Moss do have their share of disasters but do listen when the sh*t hits the fan. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted February 19, 2022 Report Share Posted February 19, 2022 TR Shop is my first port of call for pretty much everything. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ntc Posted February 19, 2022 Report Share Posted February 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, stuart said: TR Shop is my first port of call for pretty much everything. Stuart. After the chassis they tried to sell me never again Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwinCamJohn Posted February 19, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2022 Sounds slightly more complicated than my ball joint. I have used Moss for years and now you can order and have it shipped from France. SC parts also except that's from Germany. They did a good price on all the bits for the suspension. For speed I used Betaset, who seem to be well regarded here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oxf2 Posted February 19, 2022 Report Share Posted February 19, 2022 The register has a dedicated "Our Trusted Suppliers" web page, but it might be useful if there were a dedicated page for actual manufacturers -- ie., not links to retailers, but rather, to manufacturers ONLY. That way, you know the name of the maker, which has to be the surest basis for trust. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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