Deggers Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 7 hours ago, TorontoTim said: Then asked to show working indicators. As the tester said "put on the left indicator, please" I looked him in the eye, deadpan, and held out my left arm..."right indicator, please" again, an arm signal. "Thank you," he said and off we went. Wonder if hand signals would fly today, if you pulled up to a test in a '35 Ford? (Top tip for 1935 . . . "don't look down on your gear lever when changing, examiners don't like cars on pavements" ) Deggers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie D Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Bleednipple said: ...no indication required "If there is no-one who would benefit from a signal"... With that logic it would mean that lighthouse keepers would be told to switch their lights off if they could not see a ship on the horizon that was in danger of crashing on the rocks that the lighthouse was there to warn them of. I don’t think that happens. Personally I always indicate, even if I can see no one who would benefit from my actions. Who knows what is just around the corner? I know I don’t… Charlie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deggers Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, Charlie D said: . . . it would mean that lighthouse keepers would be told to switch their lights off if they could not see a ship on the horizon Always wondered who was to blame for not dipping their mains. Pesky lighthouse keepers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 16 minutes ago, Charlie D said: With that logic it would mean that lighthouse keepers would be told to switch their lights off if they could not see a ship on the horizon but they are always turning them on and off. They really can’t make their mind up. It can be several times a minute !!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kiwican Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) Even if it is a light house, some still want to ignore the signal Edited December 15, 2021 by kiwican Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tim hunt Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 My comments on unnecessary signallinmg and considering the need for a signal before making a lane change prompted a healthy debate, which is never a bad thing. I would just point out that the 'Information' element of the systen of car control persists throughout the negotiation of a hazard (anything which is an actual or potential danger relating to a feature of the road or the presence of other road users). This means that the need for a signal is considered throughout and if circumstances change one previously considered unnecessary can and should be applied. Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ianc Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 Problem is that if one is executing a manoeuvre without having indicated in advance, it takes a finite time (and possibly swapping hands) then, should another vehicle suddenly appear seemingly from nowhere, to move the lever for the trafficators. In my opinion, having checked for presence of other vehicles, better always to signal so that one can concentrate more fully (but not exclusively) on the manoeuvre itself. Ian Cornish Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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