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Mid last year I fitted a new heater control valve, along with a full set of replacement coolant and heater hoses. The old valve was ok, but the replacement was cheap, and I foolishly thought that I might be doing a preventative maintenance exercise by replacing the old one.

It failed two weeks ago, squirting coolant out through the bell-shaped top section.

I took it back to the vendor, who was really good and gave me a no-charge replacement. I fitted this on 19 January this year.

Today, that replacement valve failed, squirting coolant out through the top. Again.

 

I believe that these valves are ex-Moss Europe, but they're all I can get locally here in Melbourne (Oz). Since they're ****, I'm looking for an alternative.

 

Has anyone a recommendation of an alternate valve I can use? I don't care about originality, I need function; particularly of the coolant system!

 

thanks,

 

JFerg

 

 

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Hi JFerg,

 

I replaced my cr*p heater valve with one from a 60's AMC. It is a common mod in North America.

 

Not cheap but it works very well.

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HEATER-SHUT-OFF-VALVE-CONTROL-VALVE-58-65-AMC-70-72-GREMLIN-HORNET-H1930-4648-/261327007107

 

Cheers

 

Graeme

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If you search the forum there are loads of posts on this. There is also a product available from one of the suppliers which has a complete kit. WRT the cable, I formed a circle at the end of the solid inner cable that slips over the peg on the replacement valve.

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Hi J,

the valve shown by Graeme fits a treat and is featherlight to operate.

They are made/sold by these people http://www.autozone.com/autozone/parts/Everco-Heater-Control-Valve/_/N-91sh0?itemIdentifier=135681&_requestid=7124741

 

 

TR Revington does something similar but is an in-line jobby that is suspended by its rubber hose on both ends - but works well.

 

I made my own from a washing machine service valve - obviously far superior to the above :wacko:

 

Roger

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Hi J,

the valve shown by Graeme fits a treat and is featherlight to operate.

They are made/sold by these people http://www.autozone.com/autozone/parts/Everco-Heater-Control-Valve/_/N-91sh0?itemIdentifier=135681&_requestid=7124741

 

 

TR Revington does something similar but is an in-line jobby that is suspended by its rubber hose on both ends - but works well.

 

I made my own from a washing machine service valve - obviously far superior to the above :wacko:

 

 

Hi Roger,

Looked this up, checked the fitment box & it comes up that the valve does not fit a TR4!

Cheers,

Monty.

Roger

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Just purchased one of these valves from Stuart.

How did you connect the heater cable Graeme ?.

Mark

 

Mark,

I used the same method as Pete, just a loop of heater cable around the pin.

 

Hi J,

I made my own from a washing machine service valve - obviously far superior to the above :wacko:

 

Roger

 

Roger,

 

Are you going to market these, sound cheaper than the Everco valve. :D

 

Cheers

 

Graeme

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Hi Graeme,

I enjoy tinkering and making my version of things. However I must concede that the Everco valve is a tad neater than mine.

I intend making a simpler neater version come the Spring.

 

Could the valve become part of the bulkhead twin pipe adaptor !!! :ph34r:

 

Roger

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Hi Roger,

looks simple enough. Double pipe is a bit like the Revington valve but at a fraction of the cost.

 

Roger

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Brilliant response, many thanks.

 

Currently have two old valves apart and new diaphragm made from neoprene, to go with a new home-made plunger......but I'll scrap all that now for a new one that will actually work properly.

 

JFerg

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Hello All

How about one of these and go high tech? even has a filter to stop heater getting blocked! it is only on or off but never really found the need for much in between.

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271757842403?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

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How can the Chinese make that for £2.69.

I know they are paid a bowl of rice a day but my local take-a-way charges £2.50 for a bowl of rice.

 

Roger

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Hello Roger

Its because they have all the western worlds polution so we are GREEN? well in mind.

 

Roger

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Ordered my new heater control valve from Automotive Part Sales in California yesterday morning. This morning I have the invoice, despatch confirmation, and tracking number, plus a personalised email advising of same and thanking me.

 

Can't expect a lot more than that. Very good service.

 

Including postage to Oz, U$48.33. Great value.

 

Thanks again, brains trust.

 

JFerg

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Hello JFerg

What Moto Guzzi do you run? I now run a 750 Breva but my first one was a 750 Targa then i went on to an 1100 sport(carbs) loved that bike but it was a brute and took no prisoners! if you got it dialed in it was a wonderfull but if you chickened out on the corner it was a hard mistress not this easy peessy jap handling? you had to set it up and not think of touching the front brake once committed(which i should have been!) plus it is Italian do we need to say more?

 

Roger

 

ps the old Velocette 1938 MSS is a bit easier to ride but handles as a race breed machine should(must get the KSS going again as that engine is so smooth and a 350cc will give you 70 to 80 mph all day(if you can stand the rigid back end)

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Ahhh, Roger, I have a Guzzi problem.

 

Main ride is a much-modified Mk II Le Mans, but I have a box-stock Le Mans II (black and gold) in reserve. And a Le mans III powered Triking. And an Airone Sport, although it's a non-runner. Had a half share in an 1100i Cali in the Uk for years, but sold that late last year. Also have a '38 Panther outfit, a '34 New Imperial and a 1924 Barr and Stroud engined bitzer on the road. Then there are a few Imps as reserve projects...... Plus a harley, but the only one to admit to; a 350SS Aermacchi with Harley-D on the tank badges. If only I could have everything running happily, simultaneously, I might be able to progress the projects, but that's not to be. TR4A is my sensible car.

 

JFerg

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Hello JFerg

Now I feel sensible as I only have 3 Velocettes 1938 MSS 1938 KSS and a 1964 Viper(venomised) plus the Moto Guzzi

 

But I do have 1954 TR2(in small pieces) 1968 2lt Vitesse, 1981 1500 Spitfire and a 1968 Morris Traveller plus all the usual spares(junk)collected over time

 

Plus we play at off grid living so 2 lister generators 4.5kw and 3.5kw 1958 and 1976. 2 wind turbines and about 1.5kw of PV panels and a 1100 amp/hr battery bank

 

Roger

 

ps just remembered a BSA wing wheel under the bench(no bicycle)

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Ordered my new valve on from Automotive Part Sales in California on 1 February.

It arrived here in Melbourne, Oz, today, the 12th. Pretty happy with that.

 

Fitted it in 20 minutes. Pretty happy with that, too.

 

And, as everyone said it would, it works a treat with a much lighter action.

 

Thanks again for the great access to the collected wisdom and experience.

 

JFerg

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Hi Tim,

 

I got mine from Lordco here in BC, but NAPA should be able to provide one.

 

It was a stock item in the warehouse and didn't seem to be a problem.

 

Cheers

 

Graeme

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Mark,

I used the same method as Pete, just a loop of heater cable around the pin.

 

 

 

Roger,

 

Are you going to market these, sound cheaper than the Everco valve. :D

 

Cheers

 

Graeme

 

Original heater cable snapped were it was clamped in heater valve , so not long enough to loop round new valve.

So came up with this idea and works really well , silver soldered a electrical fitting to end of cable.

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