Graeme Robinson Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 Can anyone tell e what colour I should be painting the oil filter bowl onmy 59 3a? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Smith Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 (edited) Graeme, The one fitted to TuRK is light grey and has never been painted. Cheers Andrew Edited November 23, 2013 by Andrew Smith Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Graeme Robinson Posted November 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 That's interesting Andrew, I was told it should be either light green (hammerite type finish) or black. I've also even told that the green colour was only used on Healeys even though I have seen one or two pictures of TR2's & 3's with green bowls also! What year is your car and roughly what shade of grey is it? Many thanks for your help Graeme Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Smith Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 (edited) Graeme, I believe the light green was used on the 4/4A, it was on mine and others I've seen. My 3A is a 58 car and the oil canister is a light shade of grey. For some reason the forum will not allow me to post web-hosted photos or hyperlinks, so hopefully a couple of photos will appear below from my home files?................ Cheers Andrew Edited November 23, 2013 by Andrew Smith Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 Original green is nothing like Healey colour. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Graeme Robinson Posted November 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 Got them thanks Andrew, Stuart, if yours is original in the Green which looks solid in colour i.e. not hammerite type finish? and fairly light, it seems that there were three colour options potentially from the factory: Light Green, Light Grey or Black? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ntc Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 Graeme, I believe the light green was used on the 4/4A, it was on mine and others I've seen. My 3A is a 58 car and the oil canister is a light shade of grey. For some reason the forum will not allow me to post web-hosted photos or hyperlinks, so hopefully a couple of photos will appear below from my home files?................ Cheers Andrew Boss Andrew is correct, he has seen a 3000 mile engine at my place model year 59 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don Elliott Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 When I bought my 1958 TR3A brand new in May 1958, the oil filter canister was teal green as shown at the bottom end of one of Stuart's photos. By 1987, as I was starting my restoration the green had turned to a bluish gray as shown at the top end of Stuart's photo and as described by Andrew. I re-painted it teal green as per TRA Concours Judging Standards and it has always been considered "original looking". See mine on "TRusty" next to the petrol stopcock. I also show the one that Frank Angelini put on "Grey Lady". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR 2100 Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 I did have a picture of an original NOS item, but that got lost when my computer was stolen. The green shown in Stuart's photo is correct (no surprise there) and Don's photo reflects that. That's not to say that some may have been painted originally in a different colour but you won't go wrong with the light green shade shown above. I don't think hammerite existed in the 50s and 60s? AlanR Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rodbr Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 I think this is pretty close to original as I took the one I had to Halfords and they matched it for me and made up an aerosol for about £12.00. I think turned out to be a Skoda colour. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alec Pringle Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 Hammerite only goes back to 1962, but there were plenty of metallic paints before then, and used on cars since the 1920s. I've seen a variety of shades of black, grey, light green and light blue (both solid and metallic colours) on filter bowls which were either known originals or new old stock. Originals covered a good few years production, and new old stock a lot more years as spares were remanufactured after car production ceased. I also recall Grimes and Transpeed having a job lot of bowls in the late 70s, hundreds and hundreds of the damn things, and they came in any one of at least a dozen colours . . . . I sold quite a few to TR owners and to TR specialists at the time. As far as I'm aware the various colours originally related to specific vehicle manufacturers, but I doubt that meant much if there were shortages or supply problems, nobody would be stopping car production lines for the sake of grey rather than green filter bowls . . . . Just another of those items about which it would be all too easy to try and be over-definitive. Cheers Alec Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Graeme Robinson Posted November 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 Many thanks to all that have contributed to this, it's helped me a lot as I want the finised car to be as near original as possible. I'm going to go for the teal green, showing my ignorance is this aTriumph colour or will I need a paint code? Graeme Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don H. Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 (edited) There are a number of suggestions for rattle can paints that give close to the right color for the oil filter cannister. The color seems to change on these over the years as canisters go through thousands of heat cycles in an oily environment. One can see some of this shading difference in Stuart's photos above. Perfection is probably not a practical goal -- good enough really is good enough. The Triumph Register of America Concours Guidelines discusses the oil filter canister on page UH-17 as follows (note text highlighted in bold): Oil Filter Assembly. Three versions of the assembly are found (SPCEd4 pg 13): TS1E Original, with 7/16 flange * TS9952E Flange thickened to 5/8 inch TS12650E Full Flow Filter * The flange in question is the flange on the head assembly where the head bolts to the cylinder block. According to Service Bulletin in February 1956, the "flange (filter to cylinder block) of the oil filter, together with the attachment bolts and stud, have been strengthened. This modification has been made to prevent any possibility of oil leakage from the joint due to distortion of the flange under loading by the bolts and stud". In addition to the bolts being lengthened, the tensile strength of bolts and stud was also increased. Full Flow Filter. The filter head was changed to avoid oil flow stoppage should the filter become clogged. The newer head includes a bypass and can be easily distinguished from the older versions by a access port on the head. The canister was not changed. General. All assembly versions have the same general appearance. The head is natural aluminum. The canister is painted ice blue (specific color unknown) which takes a pale green caste with age. Because of the above-mentioned problems with the earlier variations of the oil filter assembly, later variations will be accepted on earlier cars; however, an early variation should not be present on a later car. One of the colors sometimes used is Krylon satin jade green 53509, which one can see at http://www.krylon.com/products/indooroutdoor-paint/. There are other recommendations one can find online too, including a more blueish shade named Teal Frost SG4. a color used in late 1970s Chrylser products, and shown at bottom left on this color chart. Many of these are easy to find at the hardware or auto parts store. Edited November 23, 2013 by Don H. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ntc Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 Austin green it is not Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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