johnwood Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 I have seen a photo of this car in Leyland team colours, circa 76. I think it is in a scottish rally. Was this a Leyland car or a private entry with works support? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chris turner Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 The first 2 rally TR7s were KDU 497N and KDU 498N.I dont know of any other works rally cars with similar registrations but the factory did make a few replicas for advertising purposes. Maybe its 498 with a bit of dirt on the number plate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnwood Posted September 30, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 http://www.club.triumph.org.uk go to this link Chris and look under TR pictures, page 3 of the forum, i will also try to email it to you, see you on the sunday at the NEC, any news on the Sprint attending the show Quote Link to post Share on other sites
malcolm Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 The registration is quite clear ??? Malcolm. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chris turner Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 I dont think its a works run car, as the front wings have dealer sponsorship on them whereas the factory used that space for Leyland logos,prior to the British Airways sponsorship,the white cars had no big sponsor only the trade suppliers. In fact it says "Croal Bryson for Leyland cars" on the front and rear wings so it was probably a car run by a Leyland dealer. Could have been built by Del Lines for either a customer or himself before receiving his trademark private plates, and Century oils logos or it could have been built at Abingdon for a customer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnwood Posted September 30, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 Great photo, it will be my new background on the office PC for a while. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rex Wyer Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 I agree, and there are bigger flairs on the spectators than there are on the wheel arches of the car. Oh, those were the days ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andrewt Posted October 1, 2004 Report Share Posted October 1, 2004 A lot of the early rally cars used the Salisbury 4HA axle because the 5 speed axle wasn't available and the 4 speed wasn't man enough. The 4HA had a wider track than the 4 or 5 speed axle so would explain the full arches. I did actually have one of these axles, and a friend has another, however i let it go as it involved five linking the body to accomodate it. The lower trailing links mount to the standard points, but the upper links mount to specially fabricated points on the rear firewall. These gain structural strength by picking up onto the roll cage structure where it crossed at the transmission tunnel. The main roll hoop feet in my car still show the captive nuts used to bolt this structure to. This cross beam would tie the rear firewall together. The half shafts for the 4HA i had were missing, so the grief involved in locating parts, building 5 link mounts etc did not warrant the gains over the 5 speed axle for a road & track day car. Cheers Andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Bert Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 KDU488N wasn't a works car but a car run by a BL dealership Croall & Bryson at Kelso/Roxburghshire. Some parts were supplied by BL Motorsport. Bert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kdu488n Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 I know this is an ancient topic but this car was my fathers and I'm currently trying to track it down. If anyone can help it would be appreciated. If anyone would like to know some history bout the car just ask. Yours nick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnthonyF Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Well a DVLA enquiry says the last road tax expired September 1982! So has the car just been stashed away somewhere? So Nick, who was your father? Was he the owner, driver or both? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kdu488n Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 My father is peter tokely he was both driver and owner but got the car cheaper as his father was md of croall Bryson's a British leyland dealership. The car was actually sold with a twisted chassis as my father give it a bit to much on a jump and twisted her on landing. He sold the 7 and got the works tr8 with the 4 litre rather than the 3.5 which he went on to take div 2 scottish rally championship in 1978, he sold the tr8 and was all set to take clarkes tr8 when British leyland went bust. Thanks for your help Nick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jothecat Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Unipart Group still have a couple of rally TR8's at Cowley. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR8IAN Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 I wonder what's going to happen to them Jo, after the demise of Unipart? Cheers Ian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rico Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 (edited) A bit of useless trivia... The Croal Bryson dealership this car was advertising in Kelso became Lloyds Land Rover in 2012. It's also where I work as a spray painter and only last week, Robert Croalls Triumph Stag was in for some pre sale rust repairs! Edited October 17, 2014 by Rico Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jothecat Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 Ian Only Unipart Automotive went bust (I know as I was working for them); Unipart Group of Companies is still trading and have their HO St Cowley. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnwood Posted October 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Are the TR8's accessible to the general public? If not does anyone know which cars they are? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnwood Posted October 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 My father is peter tokely he was both driver and owner but got the car cheaper as his father was md of croall Bryson's a British leyland dealership. The car was actually sold with a twisted chassis as my father give it a bit to much on a jump and twisted her on landing. He sold the 7 and got the works tr8 with the 4 litre rather than the 3.5 which he went on to take div 2 scottish rally championship in 1978, he sold the tr8 and was all set to take clarkes tr8 when British leyland went bust. Thanks for your help Nick Really interesting stuff Nick, I started this topic 10 years ago and would be really interested to see other pictures of your fathers rally cars. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Kdu488n Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Kdu 488n was also on British leyland Motorsport advertisement poster along with my fathers earlier rally car the Morris marina reg nks 191 will try upload a picture of poster at wknd with some more of the cars. Nick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kdu488n Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 I'm actually trying to find pictures of last rally my dad done in 1980 tyneside stages where he finished 3rd as he has none and he had a virgin to rally co driver, an ex scottish rugby player jock turner. If any one has any I will buy them. Thanks for your interest johnwood. Any relation to ken wood?? Nick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kdu488n Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 Interesting letter thought you might like to see, this was after winning challengers championship in 77 with kdu488n with the sprint engine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kdu488n Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Quality not great sorry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alec Pringle Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Excellent stuff, great to see these period shots and details, keep them coming !! Hopefully the TR7/8 Registrar is logging this thread ? Cheers Alec Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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